# Just got high sec Ganked, CCP suffers financial loss **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [December 11, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813 "2019-12-11T08:13:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/84 "2019-12-12T18:56:05Z")
There is nothing wrong with fit, It does conduits fine. ---
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/85 "2019-12-12T18:57:55Z")
The actual cost to replace the ship in Jita is 1.47B ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/86 "2019-12-12T19:03:13Z")
I don’t know. In the situation you describe, even if my friends avenge me, I still don’t like losing. And in case of suicide gank, you got avenged by npcs and their ships are cheap. So why should you be happy about CONCORD avenging you? Suicide ganking takes the fact that you lose your ship into consideration and usually gankers will scoop remains of their ships with back with looting alt. I mean, OP lost 2bil ship, how is the fact that the gankers lost 12x15mil to NPCs any calming? ---
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/87 "2019-12-12T19:09:26Z")
The gankers actually had about 15-20 ships there. Probably some picked up their loot. ---
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/88 "2019-12-12T19:12:06Z")
They were well organized and have 203 members in their corp. ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/89 "2019-12-12T19:16:35Z")
As I said earlier, running PVE content in the general area of Jita just increases risk by a large amount. If you move to a quieter region you will not only lower gank risk, but have fewer people trying to run conduits. Second, go live in a wormhole for awhile. It does wonders in giving you the paranoid defensive techniques that work well in all parts of EVE. now being back in empire space, I dscan all the time even if I’m in missions or other content. Doing so if I see a group of catalysts on short scan I’m out before they land. ---
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/90 "2019-12-12T19:18:14Z")
I really didn’t think I would be ganked in a BS in high sec. But I’ll keep those tips in mind next time. Thx. ---
**Author:** ![Nosc\_Hakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nosc_hakko/32/175660_2.png) [@Nosc\_Hakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nosc_Hakko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/91 "2019-12-12T19:19:20Z")
I use to live in WH’s and used DScan alot. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/92 "2019-12-12T20:19:41Z")
> [@Nosc\_Hakko](#): > > There is nothing wrong with fit, It does conduits fine. The KM says otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![F3ND1MUS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/f3nd1mus/32/377706_2.png) [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/93 "2019-12-12T21:54:52Z")
one mans financial loss is anothers financial gain. thanks to the game being so violent I can now invest in more plex with irl money and know I can keep my profits from my business ventures due to continuous warfare. there will always be high demand for my goods. ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/94 "2019-12-13T08:23:59Z")
> [@Nosc\_Hakko](#): > > There is nothing wrong with fit, It does conduits fine. Except when it doesn’t because its dead and can do no more conduit ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/95 "2019-12-13T08:26:37Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > how is the fact that the gankers lost 12x15mil to NPCs any calming? In null sec they left with entire fleet intact. In high sec they know, they will not. And everyone knows he will not. Unless wardec etc… I live primarily in high sec and I am undocked most of the days in the week. Yet to get ganked. I know it will happen one day, but right now, **after almost 8 years, I was not killed in high sec once** , unless in faction warfare by legid war enemy. I do not count forgoten MTU. Funny stuff happen, when ganker tryed to kill my wreathe but fat fingered. I escaped, concord killed him. We both have had a really nice chat after that. Do not AFK, use MWD/cloak, read the map and do not let yourself get provoked. Avoid systems ‘with 10 red catalysts inside’. It is not that hard to survive in high sec, really. There is even a chat channels with intel about gankers. With hundreds of players inside, and they work. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/96 "2019-12-13T09:09:33Z")
You’ll also find [Check before you jump](http://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/) useful for avoiding gatecamps. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/97 "2019-12-13T10:00:47Z")
How is what you wrote any relevant to what you quoted? Yes you are right about living in high and getting ganked, but that is not what I was replying to. ---
**Author:** ![NewEdenPsyco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/newedenpsyco/32/174058_2.png) [@NewEdenPsyco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NewEdenPsyco)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/98 "2019-12-15T20:13:15Z")
> I mean, OP lost 2bil ship, how is the fact that the gankers lost 12x15mil to NPCs any calming. Why should a “wowkid” with daddy’s credit card have the power to fight off a coordinated fleet with a specific ship doctrine to deliver massive damage onto an individual target.? My opinion is that a well-planned assault with twenty pilots should always be able to slay a solo ship no matter what “bling” it has. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/99 "2019-12-15T20:26:23Z")
> [@NewEdenPsyco](#): > > My opinion is that a well-planned assault with twenty pilots should always be able to slay a solo ship no matter what “bling” it has. So you don’t mind if 20 noobships can kill a capital ? ---
**Author:** ![NewEdenPsyco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/newedenpsyco/32/174058_2.png) [@NewEdenPsyco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NewEdenPsyco)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/100 "2019-12-15T20:55:13Z")
You clearly missed a lot of my post. But as I have learned you are a really anal person that likes to pick on the little things instead of the full argument. It’s typical for a specific personality and I will try to help you comprehend the full post. > a coordinated fleet with a specific ship doctrine to deliver massive damage onto an individual target.? With this, I tried to explain that with the right tools a fleet of 20 should always win against a solo target. I’m truly sorry if this wasn’t clear enough. So now stop with the reductio ad absurdum and next time you are unsure of the big picture, just ask nicely and I’m sure the good people of New Eden will be glad to help you out. Sincerely, NewEdenPsyco ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/101 "2019-12-15T21:45:16Z")
Hisec ganking, the gift that keeps on giving. ---
**Author:** ![NewEdenPsyco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/newedenpsyco/32/174058_2.png) [@NewEdenPsyco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NewEdenPsyco)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/103 "2019-12-16T07:34:31Z")
But you understood what I wrote and that’s not an easy task sometimes. You strike me as an intelligent person so I will give you a book "Wittgenstein on the arbitrariness of grammar ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813/104 "2019-12-16T08:37:49Z")
> [@NewEdenPsyco](#): > > Why should a “wowkid” with daddy’s credit card have the power to fight off a coordinated fleet with a specific ship doctrine to deliver massive damage onto an individual target.? I wouldn’t call “warp-in-press-F1” tactic as much as “coordinated”. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-got-high-sec-ganked-ccp-suffers-financial-loss/205813.md?page=6)