# Just out of the freezer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 26, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938 "2018-02-26T18:37:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/21 "2018-02-26T23:24:35Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > Not trying to. Just pointing out the actual problem. Fair enough. I am just pondering … like this … 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/22 "2018-02-26T23:28:17Z")
[name removed} \> DIS OMEGA ■■■■ Makes me want to hang my self Literally just said in Rookie Help 30 seconds ago. See what I mean? I know to some it might seem like we are just talking about one post on the forums here, but this is a constant issue in the game at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/23 "2018-02-26T23:30:52Z")
So… one drive-by post makes it a non-issue, but two make it a serious problem? Two out of how many players that have it figured out just fine? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/24 "2018-02-26T23:38:49Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > So… one drive-by post makes it a non-issue, but two make it a serious problem? Two out of how many players that have it figured out just fine? This is silly talk. It’s not one or two as I’ve said it’s daily, weekly, monthly. I thought being able to demonstrate that I did not even have to wait 30 seconds after posting here and returning to Rookie Help before yet another Rookie brought it up would make a point. It probably does to most people / anyone prepared to think about it. If you actually require a list hundreds long of every incident day by day before you’ll accept the existence of an issue that you already identified the existence of yourself … 🙃 well … I don’t have that much time to waste, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/25 "2018-02-26T23:43:18Z")
Okay, so for argument’s sake, let’s say you’re not making numbers up (as if pretending that asking you to prove your assertions makes me the delusional one; you need to learn what ‘burden of proof’ means, because right now, it’s on you; I watch rookie chat quite frequently and can’t find the posts you’re talking about now, and links are pretty easy to make). You’re saying they’re asking for help… and what, they’re just not getting any? No one is explaining how things work? Because I don’t believe that at all. The game isn’t trying to hide any details about its service model. Sooner or later, if you don’t want to come across as an intellectually dishonest ninny, you’re going to have to accept that most people are just lazy, stupid, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/26 "2018-02-26T23:47:51Z")
It’s just a discussion, thoughts, ponderings, questions, and nothing here is my responsibility or fault. If you are this quick to resort to accusations and insults and cannot be civil then I am certainly not going to ‘discuss’ anything with you further. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/27 "2018-02-26T23:57:31Z")
I didn’t make any accusations or insults. You said: > [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#): > > > [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > > > So… one drive-by post makes it a non-issue, but two make it a serious problem? Two out of how many players that have it figured out just fine? > > If you actually require a list hundreds long of every incident day by day before you’ll accept the existence of an issue that you already identified the existence of yourself … > > well … I don’t have that much time to waste, sorry. As if I’m wasting your time asking you to prove your claims. You’re not just discussing, you’re asserting there is a prevailing and pervasive problem on a section of the forums that I follow myself quite closely because I like actually helping newbs, and yet, I’m not seeing these hundreds of posts. So yes, I’m gonna need you to make a list. I’m only telling you this because I know there isn’t one, and if there is indeed hundreds of them, then it is hundreds over the course of hundreds again more days, and they are spread so thin amongst other more confusing issues about this game that they are a non-issue. Above, you quoted something you claimed was on those forums, and didn’t even link to the post. Why? The fact is, some people are entitled, lazy, and/or stupid. This is a fact. Not an insult, a fact. These people exist. And these people try to play EVE Online expecting too much from it, or something that it doesn’t offer at all. If you’re uncomfortable with this fact, that’s not my problem, but it is indeed a fact. Avoiding even the possibility of it being a fact means you were never even open to discussion in the first place, because real discussion involves exploring all angles, perspectives, and ideas that may be relevant to the specific topic of discussion. So if you can’t handle discussion because of your perception that I am ‘quick to resort to accusation and insult’ then the only advice I can give you is: grow up and stop being so naive. The world is loaded with people of all varieties, including the stupid, lazy, and entitled. ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/28 "2018-02-27T00:03:54Z")
> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#): > > If you are this quick to resort to accusations and insults and cannot be civil then I am certainly not going to ‘discuss’ anything with you further. You missed this part it seems 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/29 "2018-02-27T00:06:14Z")
No, I didn’t, I directly addressed it. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/30 "2018-02-27T00:12:28Z")
Ftp crowd, newer generation, they’re whiny, you’re getting old. ---
**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/31 "2018-02-27T00:13:32Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > Ftp crowd, newer generation, they’re whiny, you’re getting old. You are probably right on all counts, lol 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/32 "2018-02-27T00:37:33Z")
They’re far too on the nose with the self deprecating humor too, I get it, you hate yourself, welcome to adulthood, At least be _funny_ about being miserable. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/33 "2018-02-27T05:47:56Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/f/9f70ef50b34001d29c2be58328a5cdcd90667735.jpg) Edit: I feel a little dirty using an anti-vaxxer as a funny meme, but… it fits. Even if he is utterly retarded in real life. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-out-of-the-freezer/59938/34 "2018-05-28T05:54:51Z")
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