# Just seeking confirmation this person has been banned from Echoes

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 16, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551 "2020-08-16T06:20:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tara\_Stargazer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tara_stargazer/32/224016_2.png) [@Tara\_Stargazer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tara_Stargazer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/1 "2020-08-16T06:20:53Z")

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Also, is there an official forum for Echos?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/2 "2020-08-16T06:23:25Z")

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If people got banned on the first offense for saying something nasty, the gaming industry would’ve went out of business a _long_ time ago.

Basically, report, move on, and don’t backseat-moderate.

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**Author:** ![Tara\_Stargazer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tara_stargazer/32/224016_2.png) [@Tara\_Stargazer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tara_Stargazer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/3 "2020-08-16T06:26:29Z")

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There is nasty and there is this.  
::edit:: People have been banned for less from EVE before.  
The zero tolerance of this from CCP is what make EVE the quality product that it is, and why people stay.  
I’m all for a bit of aggressive banter, but this is not tolerable.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/4 "2020-08-16T06:28:20Z")

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> [@Tara\_Stargazer](#):
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> The zero tolerance of this from CCP is what make EVE the quality product that it is

Never been in NPC null, have you. Local would make a biker blush.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/5 "2020-08-16T06:28:38Z")

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I don’t think _any_ company has “zero tolerance” for something like this.

They simply like dollars too much.

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**Author:** ![Tara\_Stargazer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tara_stargazer/32/224016_2.png) [@Tara\_Stargazer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tara_Stargazer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/6 "2020-08-16T06:30:49Z")

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You must be new here.  
There are many precedents of EVE taking this kind of thing seriously, with some 10+ year veterans losing their accounts.  
You are correct that other games tolerate this, but this is not other games.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/7 "2020-08-16T06:35:08Z")

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Look, some carebear once told me that he was going to “rape my tight little ■■■■” or something like that. I reported him, and after the last thing he said, it took exactly one hour before I noticed him speaking again.

Also, I spent quite a while after that looking in the mirror and trying to find it, thinking that all of my problems were finally about to be solved, but to no avail. ¯\ \_ (ツ)\_/¯

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/8 "2020-08-16T06:36:18Z")

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This guy one time took everything said in Jita over a day or so and filtered it for the N-word. It averaged 20 an hour or something. He reported it right here in the forum with receipts and CCP did diddly squat about it.

So I don’t know where you are getting this zero tolerance malarkey from. It doesn’t exist. Never has.

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**Author:** ![Tara\_Stargazer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tara_stargazer/32/224016_2.png) [@Tara\_Stargazer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tara_Stargazer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/9 "2020-08-16T06:39:08Z")

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I’d argue that gigX’s words were less than murder, but didn’t get them off the hook.

> **[EVE Online alliance leader permanently banned after threatening to cut off...](https://www.pcgamer.com/eve-online-alliance-leader-permanently-banned-after-threatening-to-cut-off-another-players-hands/)**
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> In the wake of a betrayal that cost him everything, this player just lost the ability to even play.

Racism is rotten, but threatening or suggesting physical harm to another is a strict no no.

Also only 20x per hour?? given how fast chat flows in Jita doesn’t that actually suggest thing like this are rare and not tolerated by the community?

Feel free to set your own standards, but I’m standing firm.  
Suggesting someone be drugged raped and murdered is not on.

/thread.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/10 "2020-08-16T06:41:22Z")

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Yeah, but that was an actual doxxing attempt, not just saying “I hope you blah blah.”

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/11 "2020-08-16T06:41:43Z")

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> [@Tara\_Stargazer](#):
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> Racism is rotten, but threatening or suggesting physical harm to another is a strict no no.

There’s no ‘but’. They are both a strict no no. And both are rarely acted upon by CCP.

And just as a counterpoint. An alliance leader told some guy in front of a massive crowd to kill himself and suffered nothing from CCP. Or wouldn’t have. But thanks to disgusted and vocal players their hand was forced and he got a token slap on the wrist.

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**Author:** ![Tara\_Stargazer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tara_stargazer/32/224016_2.png) [@Tara\_Stargazer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tara_Stargazer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/12 "2020-08-16T06:47:26Z")

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So what does that tell you??  
Be more vocal.  
Be with me, not against me.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/13 "2020-08-16T06:48:58Z")

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You don’t believe in second chances?

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**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/14 "2020-08-16T06:51:40Z")

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Not with idiots.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/15 "2020-08-16T06:53:25Z")

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> [@Tara\_Stargazer](#):
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> Be with me, not against me

What I’m against is you fabricating CCP’s action on this. You taking one example of punishment and extrapolating it into a general behavior from the company is complete BS. They do not now, nor have they ever, enforced a zero tolerance policy.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/16 "2020-08-16T07:16:51Z")

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> [@Cygnus\_Carta](#):
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> Not with idiots.

Then I am in **real** serious trouble, because not only am I an idiot, but I once recreated the entire Hitler Mannerheim recording after I underestimated a carebear corporation before declaring war on them, and they brought out like 50 Blackbirds and Caracals when I showed up to their system.

“…had someone told me that a carebear corp can bring 50 cruisers to the battle, then I would have said ‘you are out of your mind…’”

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**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_carta/32/217843_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Carta)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/17 "2020-08-16T07:26:06Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> they brought out like 50 Blackbirds and Caracals

Many many years ago, when “solo” deccing was still a thing, targets would sometimes hire me afterwards to help them get better against people like me.

Since most carebears tend to fly Caldari ships I generally taught them to bring an equal amount of Blackbirds and Drakes. The drakes as heavy tackle and damage sponge, the blackbirds just to fck with the attackers. I made them understand that smart wardeccers would check their potential targets before actually deccing and if they’d see a wardec killmaill with 5 drakes and 7 blackbirds on it they’d probably decide to NOT dec that group.

Sounds like you didn’t do your research 😛

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/18 "2020-08-16T07:28:10Z")

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Alcohol is a major component of my decision-making process.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/19 "2020-08-16T08:16:22Z")

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> [@Tara\_Stargazer](#):
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> is there an official forum for Echos?

It’s probably called Twitter or something, needs the same fingers to use.

Mayhem in the shallow part of the sandbox, love it.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-seeking-confirmation-this-person-has-been-banned-from-echoes/260551/20 "2020-08-16T08:19:02Z")

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Can you even do the whole “PvP” thing in that game?

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