# Keeping PvE players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 13, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455 "2021-04-13T21:53:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/333 "2021-04-25T14:12:14Z")
> [@Reibagegar\_Garemoko](#): > > **if EVE wants to keep PvE centric players in the game, it needs to have a different server that is only PvE** Terrible idea, sorry. EVE is already a PvE game with some danger elements ( pvp ) and I think it should stay that way. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/334 "2021-04-25T14:57:25Z")
> [@TrueDark\_Masta](#): > > Don’t catch your idea. But everybody needs that PVP switch. Eve echoes. ---
**Author:** ![TrueDark\_Masta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/truedark_masta/32/303746_2.png) [@TrueDark\_Masta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrueDark_Masta)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/335 "2021-04-25T16:02:49Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Eve echoes No. Eve online. If you want some pvp go to arena. And don’t disturb adult players of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/336 "2021-04-25T16:28:17Z")
What you’re suggesting is the antithesis of the entire design of the game; it also yoinks out one of the cornerstones the game is built on, if you remove cornerstones the thing that they’re built on tends to collapse. “the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the _cornerstone_ with which _EVE_ was built” -_CCP Solomon_ ---
**Author:** ![TrueDark\_Masta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/truedark_masta/32/303746_2.png) [@TrueDark\_Masta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrueDark_Masta)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/337 "2021-04-25T16:36:33Z")
It is not removing the cornerstone of the game. But legal desire to choose the honourable competition you want to participate. Removing some horrible and brutal behaviour from this game will make it much healthy then it is. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/338 "2021-04-25T16:37:33Z")
> [@TrueDark\_Masta](#): > > But **legal** **desire** to choose the **honourable** **competition** you want to participate. Lot of fancy words to whine about gankers, lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/339 "2021-04-25T16:41:10Z")
> [@TrueDark\_Masta](#): > > Removing some horrible and brutal behaviour from this game will make it much healthy then it is. Citation needed. You sound like Balos, that’s unlikely though as you appear to frequent the Russian part of the forums, in which case this seems appropriate. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/9/c/a9c502dc2067c85ff5dfa37a5c69c0d5f89ff751.jpeg) Eve’s peak growth and player numbers occurred when the game was less forgiving than it is now; hisec is safer than it has ever been with very few risks for PvE players, if they’re paying attention to the game instead of watching fapflix. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/340 "2021-04-25T16:48:20Z")
EVE survived all this time because is different for all the other games that are similar to what that PVE folks want 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![TrueDark\_Masta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/truedark_masta/32/303746_2.png) [@TrueDark\_Masta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrueDark_Masta)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/341 "2021-04-25T17:36:41Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > the Russian part Do you check out every poster by topics he created? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/342 "2021-04-25T17:47:23Z")
Your spiel resembles that of another poster who used multiple alts to spout the same stuff; just checking. Your profile is currently public, if you don’t want people looking at it, set it to private; you’ll still appear in the forum search results though. ---
**Author:** ![TheManWhoLaughs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/themanwholaughs/32/269449_2.png) [@TheManWhoLaughs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheManWhoLaughs)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/343 "2021-04-25T18:07:57Z")
The interactions between care bears and D\*\*K Heads is such a fundamental part of eve and always has been. If anything hi-sec appears to have become even more care bear friendly. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/344 "2021-04-25T18:38:55Z")
> [@TrueDark\_Masta](#): > > If you want some pvp go to arena. And don’t disturb adult players of the game. Lol ‘adults’. The kind that troll on the forums because they don’t like the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/345 "2021-04-25T18:42:13Z")
The very idea of an arena is gross and makes me want to puke out of my ass ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/346 "2021-04-25T19:59:42Z")
Hilarious +1 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/347 "2021-04-25T20:35:07Z")
> [@TrueDark\_Masta](#): > > If you want some pvp go to arena. And don’t disturb adult players of the game. I was always taught that adults shouldn’t complain about trivial things such as children’s games like EVE? ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/348 "2021-04-25T21:43:05Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I was always taught that adults shouldn’t complain about trivial things such as children’s games like EVE? Adults should be good people and good people don’t PvP in video games about PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Promitheus11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/promitheus11/32/369127_2.png) [@Promitheus11](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Promitheus11)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/350 "2021-04-26T04:37:54Z")
PvP players make PvE players playing better. No risk no reward, this is RL and somehow EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Shattered](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shattered/32/270834_2.png) [@Shattered](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shattered)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/351 "2021-05-03T23:34:00Z")
Well I’m just going to throw 2 cents in before I move on. I’m a new player (couple months) and I’ve mostly on been in high sec doing mining and missions except where I’ve had to travel around to other places. For me, that’s fun. The exploration, etc. I also play other MMORPG’s. In those games as well, I find fun in the quest’s and exploration and lore. I’m not a PVP person and to me, any game that let’s player’s attack other players with or without consent is a PVP game. It doesn’t matter if it’s punished by a “score” or not, that’s still pvp- forced pvp. I’ve been flying in a “free” corvette with a empty cargo hold and been blown up, so it’s not about isk. I just don’t like pvp and I don’t play games where I can’t say if I want to participate in it or not. With that, I’ve decided this game isn’t for me. I think if in just the “high-sec” there was no pvp, I could even go along with that but since the mechanic’s of the game are as such I don’t really care for this game. It has a lot of cool features and I did like the chat channels that offer help to newbies. Oh…and pvp players do not make pve players better. You clearly don’t understand the mechanics of a pvp game vs pve. They are different. If they weren’t, there wouldn’t be different names for them in the first place. But anyway, I’m not looking for a reply and won’t be following this. I just thought I’d throw something in, just in case a developer skims through and see this thread. Have fun all, and stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/352 "2021-05-03T23:44:15Z")
I’m going to take the above post, switch up all the instances of “pvp” and “pve” with each other (along with minor changes to wording to create consistency in the context), and go post it on the forums of a PvE MMO. I’ll let everyone know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/353 "2021-05-03T23:57:49Z")
I will save you the carpel tunnel and time and advise don’t post on wow forums. WOW has PVP required now. Its where you get your ilevel 200 gear not relying on RNG to start on the path to mythic clears/heroic raid to work up the 220 ilevel gear. Also as new 60 in crap gear…its actually harsher than eve. In eve I can try to burn a camp to live longer. 6 on 1 does not end well. So yeah…you go for option B and work getting away from the camp. In wow…you go into those battlegrounds and get you butt beat by ilevel 210+ geared farmers for several minutes. death after death…after death. For the honor points. To buy conquest gear. Best you got is hoping your team has the better 210’s. so they win it for you and you get more points. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455.md?page=18)