# Keeping PvE players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 13, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455 "2021-04-13T21:53:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/171 "2021-04-21T15:48:59Z")
Only if they find you ugly If you are 6 pack CHAD you can request duels any time you want ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/172 "2021-04-21T15:52:40Z")
> [@PJ\_Jones](#): > > Without PVE players, > this game would force you to stop mindlessly blowing stuff up, > and start doing all the background manufacturing that PVE players do. Many of us enjoy industry and manufacturing. Do you know how many hours I, for example, have spent in games like Minecraft and Garry’s Mod building things? **Tens of thousands**. It’s just that PvPers aren’t idiots (well, less so than pure PvE players), so we’re going to go for the activity that pays us more, which conveniently for us is blowing up your janky, fat hauler-flying ass. Why the flying ■■■■ would anyone try to build anything today? For something like 95% of items, you actually **lose** money by transforming the raw resources into the end products, and on the remainder you merely break even. And resource extraction itself constitutes some of the least-paying PvE income streams available in the game. All because the game is _beyond saturated_ with mindless farming drones like you. > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > That’s a big fat assumption. Some people got distracted for a bit, some are just plain slow, some are at the keyboard but using AP, etc. > > Also if your computer goes buggy it can delay you past your warp cloak timer. Bro, you **really** goin’ for the “it’s **not fair** to attack players without their consent because the computer their grandma bought them is too slow or because they’re too busy jerkin’ it to the latest hentai manga to watch the game screen” angle? The well really dried up, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/173 "2021-04-21T15:58:02Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Why the flying ■■■■ would anyone try to build anything today? For something like 95% of items, you actually **lose** money by transforming the raw resources into the end products, and on the remainder you merely break even. And resource extraction itself constitutes some of the least-paying PvE income streams available in the game. > > All because the game is _beyond saturated_ with mindless farming drones like you. Exactly. There are plenty of PvP players who are willing to do industry but the hordes of “MINERALS I MINE MYSELF ARE FREE” idiots devalue those activities and remove the point. A decrease in the oversupply of mining and production would increase the profits on those activities and provide incentive to start industry alts and take advantage. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/174 "2021-04-21T15:58:02Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Minecraft ![56ku92](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/7/a/67a979ea6b39e3ee7803c73322deffc415fff150.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/175 "2021-04-21T16:06:41Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > no reason other than greed You say that like its a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/176 "2021-04-21T16:12:10Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > There are plenty of PvP players who are willing to do industry but the hordes of “MINERALS I MINE MYSELF ARE FREE” idiots devalue those activities and remove the point. Suicide gankers are freedom fighters seeking to free highsec indy slaves from tryannical carebeardom. ---
**Author:** ![PJ\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pj_jones/32/268814_2.png) [@PJ\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PJ_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/177 "2021-04-21T16:25:40Z")
> [@Keeping PvE players in EVE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/138): > > You make a mistake to think there is no overlap between PvE and PvP players. If all the players who never do PvP would leave the game, the rest of the playerbase that does both PvE and PvP will happily continue playing without any problems\*. Kind regards, a PvE and PvP player \*The only minor problem would be that there are less targets to shoot at You make the mistake of assumption, because I do both. If you read properly you would realize that I was responding to the quote that ‘PvE players add nothing to EVE’ reading is an art form you need to master my friend have a good day ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/178 "2021-04-21T16:28:55Z")
PvE players only contribute to the game when they use their assets for PvP. If they persist in solely PvE activity, then they are accruing isk (free game time) at the expense of everybody else, by engaging in repetitive grinding. Anyone who only does PvE is not contributing to the game, but rather they are taking from everybody else. PvP players have the sacred duty of ensuring CCP does not go bankrupt, by shooting PvE players and preventing them from grinding the servers into dust. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/179 "2021-04-21T16:31:05Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Exactly. There are plenty of PvP players who are willing to do industry but the hordes of “MINERALS I MINE MYSELF ARE FREE” idiots devalue those activities and remove the point. A decrease in the oversupply of mining and production would increase the profits on those activities and provide incentive to start industry alts and take advantage. What utter tosh, as soon as the pve’ers stop mining the horde of pvp’ers will just as quickly jump in and pick up where the pve’ers left off, so no change. They will be no advantage, the markets would re-adjust fairly rapidly if that were to happen. I cannot do industry because someone else is taking all the minerals excuse is just that, an excuse. For the record I hate mining I buy all my minerals apart from reprocessing what I get from lvl4 missions. I build a hell of a lot and at substantial profit… ---
**Author:** ![PJ\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pj_jones/32/268814_2.png) [@PJ\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PJ_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/180 "2021-04-21T16:31:36Z")
> [@Keeping PvE players in EVE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/172): > > Many of us enjoy industry and manufacturing. Do you know how many hours I, for example, have spent in games like Minecraft and Garry’s Mod building things? Tens of thousands. It’s just that PvPers aren’t idiots (well, less so than pure PvE players), so we’re going to go for the activity that pays us more, which conveniently for us is blowing up your janky, fat hauler-flying ass. Why the flying ■■■■ would anyone try to build anything today? For something like 95% of items, you actually lose mo… calling me, a new player a “mindless farming drone”, is kind of funny coming from someone who spends literally **Tens of Thousands** of Hours playing Mind Craft I weep for you on a personal level. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/181 "2021-04-21T16:43:21Z")
Oh ho, you turned that around on me like a total pro. There’s no way I can recover from that one. Guess I’ll just go kill myself now to preserve my family’s honor, bye. ---
**Author:** ![PJ\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pj_jones/32/268814_2.png) [@PJ\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PJ_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/182 "2021-04-21T16:45:04Z")
> [@Keeping PvE players in EVE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/146): > > That’s not true, CCP give me free Gnosis. Socialism . . .lol I see you ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/183 "2021-04-21T16:46:30Z")
> [@PJ\_Jones](#): > > Socialism How is that…?? What? Edit: oh nvm, just saw the rest of your comments, you’re not worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![PJ\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pj_jones/32/268814_2.png) [@PJ\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PJ_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/184 "2021-04-21T16:47:28Z")
> [@Keeping PvE players in EVE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/181): > > Oh ho, you turned that around on me like a total pro. There’s no way I can recover from that one. Guess I’ll just go kill myself now to preserve my family’s honor, bye. I notice a lack of retort, all I read was butthurt . . what’s the Eve saying? Cry More, excuse me while I am drinking your tears. ---
**Author:** ![PJ\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pj_jones/32/268814_2.png) [@PJ\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PJ_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/185 "2021-04-21T16:48:30Z")
> [@Keeping PvE players in EVE](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/183): > > How is that…?? What? Edit: oh nvm, just saw the rest of your comments, you’re not worth my time. dude don’t worry, I think half the people here can’t read a thread properly. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/186 "2021-04-21T16:50:32Z")
stop it your fool this is the EVE online forum dont come here to talk ■■■■ about … Minecraft not cool ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/187 "2021-04-21T17:06:15Z")
You’re right, I’m sure CCP will get angry at us for discussing a game that has more engaging and fulfilling crafting and more fun and hardcore PvP than EVE does. Maybe we should get that rule from 15 years ago reinstated that specifically forbade referring to any other games by their names on the forums. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/188 "2021-04-21T17:11:04Z")
i dont care for this rules i just think Minecraft is nice i played a lot nowadays my offspring plays much more than me if you going to talk ■■■■ about a game , maybe that dam Roblox … edit: my kid mug shot she stole some robux ![b97228e6-cdaf-434b-bda9-9b4652fc2a2f](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/f/2/9f235f679b5898b7e86a80f6959e23406208b3f1.jpeg) thug life ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/189 "2021-04-21T17:19:37Z")
[quote="PJ\_Jones,]I think half the people here can’t read a thread properly [/quote] [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/2/5/025382450e873f6c0261cfe23d9fc7055e23c9e9.gif) ](https://media1.giphy.com/media/yV5xcSTmtVPBS/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/190 "2021-04-21T17:29:42Z")
> [@PJ\_Jones](#): > > I think half the people here can’t read a thread properly. They don’t read it at all. They skim posts for trigger words to work themselves into a lather over and then go off on a rant that has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with their personal mental issues. Mr Epeen 🕶 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455.md?page=10)