# Keeping PvE players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 13, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455 "2021-04-13T21:53:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 172
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455/172 "2021-04-21T15:52:40Z")
> [@PJ\_Jones](#): > > Without PVE players, > this game would force you to stop mindlessly blowing stuff up, > and start doing all the background manufacturing that PVE players do. Many of us enjoy industry and manufacturing. Do you know how many hours I, for example, have spent in games like Minecraft and Garry’s Mod building things? **Tens of thousands**. It’s just that PvPers aren’t idiots (well, less so than pure PvE players), so we’re going to go for the activity that pays us more, which conveniently for us is blowing up your janky, fat hauler-flying ass. Why the flying ■■■■ would anyone try to build anything today? For something like 95% of items, you actually **lose** money by transforming the raw resources into the end products, and on the remainder you merely break even. And resource extraction itself constitutes some of the least-paying PvE income streams available in the game. All because the game is _beyond saturated_ with mindless farming drones like you. > [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > That’s a big fat assumption. Some people got distracted for a bit, some are just plain slow, some are at the keyboard but using AP, etc. > > Also if your computer goes buggy it can delay you past your warp cloak timer. Bro, you **really** goin’ for the “it’s **not fair** to attack players without their consent because the computer their grandma bought them is too slow or because they’re too busy jerkin’ it to the latest hentai manga to watch the game screen” angle? The well really dried up, huh? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/keeping-pve-players-in-eve/305455)._