# Kicking Over Castles news discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [December 3, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385 "2019-12-03T18:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/1 "2019-12-03T18:12:39Z")
Please use this thread to discuss [the upcoming changes in the Kicking Over Castles update](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q1y7xm/kicking-over-castles-coming-soon) coming on December 10th. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/2 "2019-12-03T18:14:06Z")
Why did you choose a name like Convict as your CCP name? Makes you look like a criminal. ---
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/3 "2019-12-03T18:18:09Z")
I’m Australian and I wanted a dev name with an Australian flavour. Plus Brits like to use “convict” on us Aussies as a slur sometimes, so I figured I’d get out in front of it. 😉 And like a wise man once said: ![-Wear-it-like-armor-and-it-can-never-be-used-to-hurt-you](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/e/0e8355c4a8a03188a86e27a4e396443b3c49b966.jpeg) 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Mifune\_SwordGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mifune_swordgod/32/389834_2.png) [@Mifune\_SwordGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mifune_SwordGod)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/4 "2019-12-03T18:20:12Z")
I personally LOVE this update! No more late USTZ fleets at 3 AM just to kill a astra during war time! PS: anyone know where the drake buff is suppose to come? ---
**Author:** ![Amak\_Boma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amak_boma/32/274822_2.png) [@Amak\_Boma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amak_Boma)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/5 "2019-12-03T18:23:37Z")
why kick castles when we can dig under then and cause them to collapse? get rid of reinforcement timer entirely and extra shield like drifters do and taking it down would be couple hours,once shield is gone the regular shield/armor/hull melts as normal. the special shield would be green color sidebar and adding 90% resists to citadel. when green shield is gone then its now quick work to kill it… the green shield would be only for full power cits. red shields would go to low power with only 30% resists… this is to make triggerhappy people triggersad people. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/6 "2019-12-03T18:24:10Z")
Seems reasonable all around! 👍🏽 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/7 "2019-12-03T18:26:09Z")
> [@FC\_Convict](#): > > And like a wise man once said: Pity he got so damned stupid a few years later. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/8 "2019-12-03T18:26:43Z")
> [@Mifune\_SwordGod](#): > > I personally LOVE this update! No more late USTZ fleets at 3 AM just to kill a astra during war time! Nah, that’ll still happen. They just can’t guarantee it’s in the middle of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Redart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redart/32/189641_2.png) [@Redart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redart)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/9 "2019-12-03T18:34:58Z")
What is the “Free Market Release”? I haven’t heard anything about that before and can’t find it in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stephan_x_janau/32/272899_2.png) [@Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stephan_X_Janau)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/10 "2019-12-03T18:39:30Z")
[https://www.eveonline.com/article/q1muog/introducing-the-hypernet-relay?origin=launcher](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q1muog/introducing-the-hypernet-relay?origin=launcher) . if I’am correct ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/11 "2019-12-03T18:40:09Z")
not a mention of “free market” in there. I guess the article is being written right now. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Adoudel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_adoudel/32/271497_2.png) [@Max\_Adoudel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Adoudel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/12 "2019-12-03T18:41:49Z")
@FC_Convict you should consider doing smth similar with POSes. They are way too hard to kill for their price. Consider lowering their EHP maybe? Shorten reinforcement times? If you want to finally get rid of them - you should start it slow) ---
**Author:** ![BearThatCares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bearthatcares/32/408333_2.png) [@BearThatCares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BearThatCares)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/13 "2019-12-03T18:42:54Z")
Keep `0.5 days for Wormhole space` otherwise it’s not balanced for later timezones like USTZ. Earlier TZ groups can evict on Thursday in their timezone, and followup after work on a Friday (weekend). This ends on a Sunday. USTZ groups cannot do the same due to the earlier timer on Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Redart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redart/32/189641_2.png) [@Redart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redart)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/14 "2019-12-03T18:42:55Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > not a mention of “free market” in there. Glad I’m not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/15 "2019-12-03T18:49:48Z")
> [@Amak\_Boma](#): > > why kick castles when we can dig under then and cause them to collapse? Why wait for it to collapse when you can blow them up from below? 😉 [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/0/400fda7b65f651f4e7a8504603ae54e4416f367c.jpeg "WWI The First Modern War: The British Unleash Mass Destruction On the Germans | History") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-Pzoxs4Es) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/6/b/66b1530e2e0b296f7e276647f0b610f8c84ff1a3.jpeg "This WWI Explosion Left a Hole 70 Feet Deep | Lochnagar Crater") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn-Lm5GKvi0) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/16 "2019-12-03T18:50:18Z")
I would start by halving their EHP if they are offline. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/17 "2019-12-03T18:53:40Z")
That actually sounds reasonable. To bad the game got tainted by other changes that release at the same date. Really a shame. Well, 17 years (?) was a good run, not many games last that long. ---
**Author:** ![Carn\_Uta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carn_uta/32/292627_2.png) [@Carn\_Uta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carn_Uta)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/18 "2019-12-03T18:56:26Z")
Is the shield -\> armour timer still the same? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/19 "2019-12-03T18:59:40Z")
> [@Redart](#): > > What is the “Free Market Release”? Seriously, do they really think if they avoid the word GAMBLING and replace it with “free market” no one will notice? I can’t even describe how pathetic this is. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385/20 "2019-12-03T19:05:21Z")
> HyperNet Relay is available on the Singularity test server today and will be officially launched on 10 December with the Free Market Release. [https://www.eveonline.com/article/q1muog/introducing-the-hypernet-relay](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q1muog/introducing-the-hypernet-relay) Two different things edit: or its only update name. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kicking-over-castles-news-discussion/204385.md?page=2)