# Kill 15 Triglavians in Abyssal Space **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [September 8, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398 "2023-09-08T16:47:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Emily\_Davis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emily_davis/32/420138_2.png) [@Emily\_Davis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emily_Davis)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/41 "2023-11-19T01:11:30Z")
yeah my fav was when someone sent me a 20b gila for t2s and i was like hmmmm. there’s more officer then deadspace here and maybe this isn’t for me. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/42 "2023-11-19T01:13:32Z")
> [@Emily\_Davis](#): > > yeah my fav was when someone sent me a 20b gila for t2s and i was like hmmmm. You really need to find better acquaintances at this point if people are trolling you lol. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/43 "2023-11-19T04:53:23Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > A HAWK??? WORM??? Both are pretty good ships for T2 Abyssals. You can run T2 darks in a cheap 80M Hawk, returning like 15M per site and you can do around 6 sites per hour. Completely passive and somewhat undyable if you are not messing up completely. Thats like 90m/hour for basically no investment and no risk and available for starters as soon as they can fly AFs, have Rockets at Tech2 and decent shield/missile support skills. You need A LOT more investment for doing T3s in a Gila and you would barely make more money in there. ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/44 "2023-11-19T04:54:41Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > And t2s are almost no different to t1 a and t0 except there are slightly more npcs + super annoying small drones (that however dies to environment before I can kill them as my drones explodes immediatelly and rapid light missiles are not doing anything to them - so it is not any easier to clear “kill X drones” mission either) There is a structure called “Automaton Suppressing Tower” or something like that, inside the deadspace, that will attack all drones and missiles within a certain distance. You can approach it (and have the drones follow you) to have the tower kill the drones for you, very handy if there’s a huge swarm of them and you are short on time, or you can stay away from the tower if you want to kill the drones yourself. > [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > What on earth. > > A HAWK??? WORM??? > > I am 100000000000% sure Gilas are plastered everywhere in EVE. Hawks and Worms are pretty fringe for abyssals tbh. Gila is the main staple. Hawks and Worms can do T5 and “sometimes” T6, while equally kitchensinkable Retributions can do T6 “most times”, people are doing that all the time because it can be done w/o implants or expensive fits, and because frigate Abyss rewards are higher then cruiser Abyss rewards. Kitchensink frigates make up for almost half of the T6 runs. The point that isn’t visible in many suggested fits though is that the high tier frigate abyss runners use 3 frigates run the Abyss, i.e. the abyss run is multiboxed. There’s video tutorials for some of the frigates on [abysstracker](https://abysstracker.com/). [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/8/6/886168293875bfb1d22f9755aaf315c7ca2d88ac.jpeg "Eve Online - T6 Dark Frigates - 1B/hour in 120M setup") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqwOfLEqSPk) Nevertheless, running a high tier abyss, even if successful, doesn’t ensure you even progress on the task of shoting specific NPC types. Further, if the goal was to get people into space, then Abyss missions achieve the exact opposite of it. They are getting people out of space. The non-abyss NPC, fireworks, mining, and, in previous iterations of the event, the travel through empire space and the capsuleer kill bonuses all were asking to do something in space, more specifically in new eden, rather then in your specific instance of abysall deadspace. They have the new Zarzakh system, why isn’t there daily challenge to visit Zarzakh? ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/45 "2023-11-19T04:59:28Z")
Yah I am biased obviously. I love my gila. > [@Syzygium](#): > > You need A LOT more investment for doing T3s in a Gila and you would barely make more money in there. Yah CCP changed the loot tables and now t4 is the place to make ISK. I will still recommend the gila as it’s a staple compared to frigates/HACs. Until CCP changes the gila. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/46 "2023-11-19T05:45:38Z")
How are you getting 80mil per hour in t2 abyss? How many sites are you able to do with it per hour? Because the loot in t2 was absolutely tragic in those ~15 runs I did so far. Usually less than t0 except every 5th drops Vedmak bpc (10mil) or better filament. 80mil/h is hard to believe. btw I used RLML caracal as was recommended and in the end ran into a death pocket which that fit was not able to beat (drone battleship) and I used quite high skill toon. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/47 "2023-11-19T06:13:33Z")
You get 2x the loot when doing the sites in a Destroyer and 3x the loot when doing them in a Frig. A Caracal will net you… close to nothing, yes. That means, _on average_ you get around 15M loot _per Agitated Dark Filament_ when doing it in a Frigsize ship, what Worm and Hawk are. (Abyss Tracker nets 13.07M but it doesn’t count Blueprints). When I do these in a Hawk, I can run 6-8 of them per hour and the filaments are pretty cheap. The rest is math. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/48 "2023-11-19T09:36:38Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > You get 2x the loot when doing the sites in a Destroyer and 3x the loot when doing them in a Frig. A Caracal will net you… close to nothing, yes. Now that makes sense why I was getting more in t0 as I was using punisher. Lol, stupid mechanic and is first time I hear about it. Anyway I am really not obsessed with ISK/h, but the laughable loot in t2 with Caracal that I was using made it really demotivating to run them. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-15-triglavians-in-abyssal-space/419398/49 "2024-02-17T09:37:27Z")
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