# Kill Rights could be bounties, CCPLEASE! **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 25, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611 "2019-10-25T14:39:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/21 "2019-10-26T18:05:13Z")
You are behaving to anyone as you are clearly better than them because you have more gank kills than them. I wonder what will you do if someone you criticize will have way more than you. I really like this selfentitled behavior you and code members exhibit - “our killboard is better than you, so you sucks and your posts are meaningless.” ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/22 "2019-10-26T18:05:56Z")
Can you stop shitting in the middle of the floor and let the adults talk? ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/23 "2019-10-26T18:07:24Z")
Yeah sorry, CODE scum (and them alike) got me again. They always spam and try to distort focus from ganking-related threads. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/24 "2019-10-26T18:10:04Z")
You’re way off topic and all you’re doing is derailing the thread and screaming “EVERYONE LOOK AT ME!” as you drop trou and proceed to defecate all over an interesting discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/25 "2019-10-26T18:56:08Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > You are behaving to anyone as you are clearly better than them because you have more gank kills than them. No, I actually don’t. You’re just making the last part up. I’m better than you because I’m better than you, not because I might or might not have more kills. It wasn’t me who started talking about “amounts of ships ganked”. That was you. vOv ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/26 "2019-10-26T19:01:49Z")
> [@Gaebril\_Drakos](#): > > 1. What risks are there other than ships and standing? These aren’t risks. They’re consequences. A risk is something you take fearing something that _might_ happen. A consequence is something that _definitely does_ happen. The actual risks of a suicide ganker: - The risk that the gank might fail. - The risk that the loot drops don’t pay for the gank. - The risk that someone interferes, preventing the gank. - The risk that someone comes and steals the loot. All of these have as a consequence that the ganker lost his ship, _(thus ISK)_ lost fifteen minutes _(literally life time)_ and didn’t get anything for it. Btw … do you understand that just because you did something, it doesn’t automatically mean you understand everything about it? > [@Gaebril\_Drakos](#): > > 1. The XXX millions of isk to repair standing is not a high number give the number of ways a player can earn multiple billions a day What are you talking about? If it was so easy as you’re implying, why doesn’t literally everyone have unlimited amounts of ISK? Why does asset safety need to exist then? Why does insurance need to exist? Given the number of ways a player can earn multiple billions a day, they’re actually silly! Well, apparently in your mind? How is that an argument for or against anything? You appear to be grasping for straws there, or not really actually thinking things through. > [@Gaebril\_Drakos](#): > > 1. As @Vokan_Narkar stated, my comment was not meant to suggest that the alpha clones were active simultaneously. Just that you could avoid the penalties by logging into a different character. Sorry about that. When you wrote “army” it seemed to me that it’s about cheating. I don’t really understand how this is in any way or form an argument for or against anything considering that literally everyone can do that for literally everything. I don’t see how you can use this as a legit argument. Feel free to elaborate/expand. ---
**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/27 "2020-01-07T06:53:38Z")
Why not have both? ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_Mythros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gareth_mythros/32/264433_2.png) [@Gareth\_Mythros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gareth_Mythros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/28 "2020-01-13T15:17:44Z")
Tell you what, let’s just make it so when someone is suicide ganked, the victim is paid their insurance (perhaps doubled) out of the ganker’s wallet. If there isn’t enough to cover it, pull it out of their corp wallet. Still not enough? Start confiscating assets. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/29 "2020-01-13T23:48:34Z")
Nah, let’s not do that. Miners already get AFK minerals, they don’t need AFK isk. ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_Mythros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gareth_mythros/32/264433_2.png) [@Gareth\_Mythros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gareth_Mythros)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/30 "2020-01-14T00:14:16Z")
Isn’t already AFK isk, if it’s for insurance? It’s just a change of whose wallet that payment comes out of. Totally fair. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/31 "2020-01-14T00:20:18Z")
As somebody who has whined about this topic often in the hopes for change, I’ll chime in here… Your idea is good BUT it is missing the key factor in the whole “bounty-hunter”: risk vs reward. Having a 15-30 day period where you’re just tooling around after a bad-guy in the hopes of getting a percentage of a percentage for pay isn’t that appealing. I’d suggest a few changes: - make the targets anonymous so you can’t farm yourself - have the “contract” open for 15-30 days but pay it all (less fees/taxes) to whoever makes the kill - Use agents to issue the contracts and have a new skill needed in order to be able to talk to said agent - Skill level determines how many contracts you can take (one per level) - “Mission” (or contract level) level also determines the worth of the contract and the number of people allowed to hunt on the same contract. ie level 1 might be open to 50 people where as level 50 just 2-3 people IMO, you need to make this a viable career choice for the Boba Fett want-to-be’s…that means very good pay. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/32 "2020-03-18T15:47:01Z")
I can’t believe this thread got any responses. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/33 "2020-03-18T18:53:14Z")
It all seems meaningless now that everyone is going to die. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/34 "2020-03-18T19:29:09Z")
The bounty system as it is is probably what this new lowsec system for facwar should be tbh, as in a % of the cost of the kill (which is borked anyway in many ships especially triglavian) plus an lp reward… probably in the same vein. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/35 "2020-03-18T19:40:37Z")
Hold me. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/36 "2020-03-18T20:07:03Z")
Shhh, there there. ---
**Author:** ![diamond\_milo\_jomitos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diamond_milo_jomitos/32/197736_2.png) [@diamond\_milo\_jomitos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/diamond_milo_jomitos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/37 "2020-03-18T20:08:32Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > I can’t believe this thread got any responses And thanks for you, it’s alive again. xD ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/38 "2020-03-21T08:07:30Z")
Was it soft hard or runny? Also do you ever check the bowl afterwards? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/39 "2020-03-21T08:52:40Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > (some math wizard needs to figure out the percentage for modules cuz it can’t be exploitable and modules have like a 50% chance to drop). That maths wizard was CCP and the current bounty payout is that number. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/kill-rights-could-be-bounties-ccplease/197611/40 "2020-03-21T13:43:54Z")
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