# KIllah Bee Resigns from the CSM

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** devblog, csm\
**Created:** [October 14, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610 "2019-10-14T12:45:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/41 "2019-10-17T01:00:36Z")

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Poorly can be subjective.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/42 "2019-10-17T04:25:25Z")

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or me, don’t forget me

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**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/43 "2019-10-17T04:58:21Z")

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Meh, I edited this post cuz it sounded too self-important. The point I tried to make was if you had the patience to look up all the languages I speak (except Icelandic, I had to Google that), you have the patience to put up with a grammar mistake.

Style guides have no place in a forum. But happy you can Google, though! I find it helps a lot in the game 💛

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/44 "2019-10-17T05:53:16Z")

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Millions of people around the world care. Those who don’t are the problem.

It isn’t as simple as “understanding the message” it is about being professional and NOT making obvious mistakes when conveying information.

As for “read it twice or three times or how many you did”  
Then “look more elite then everyone else”  
See it you can pick them - Grammar rules are there for a reason - In every language.,.

NB; You didn’t fix the typos

> [@Eivar](#):
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> you have the patience to put up with a grammar mistake.

Interesting though that there weren’t any - Not in ANY of the Languages you used.  
Would it be so hard for someone whose job it is to converse with others in a certain language to do so correctly - You managed it in 5 different languages only 1 of which I imagine is your native tongue.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/45 "2019-10-17T08:10:15Z")

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> **[The Alot is Better Than You at Everything](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html)**
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> As a grammatically conscientious person who frequents internet forums and YouTube, I have found it necessary to develop a few coping mechani...

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**Author:** ![Drago\_Shouna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_shouna/32/350651_2.png) [@Drago\_Shouna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Shouna)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/46 "2019-10-17T13:10:48Z")

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> [@Daoden](#):
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> because you follow the rules when honestly who cares.

I do for one.

Sgt Ocker is correct, grammar and spelling is on a downward spiral in native English speaking countries.

I work with 3 people who are still in college, their grasp of the English language is quite frankly embarrassing for 20 year olds. But then again a lot in their 30’s are no better these days.

Anyone thinking it’s acceptable is having a laugh.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/47 "2019-10-17T13:19:29Z")

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The Dragon Onesie is back in action, ready to buckle up more than before.

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**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/48 "2019-10-17T14:37:57Z")

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Im not saying ignore it completely, im saying hes making it a big deal over minor details. Its like a cop arresting someone for jaywalking now adays.

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**Author:** ![baloney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baloney/32/157031_2.png) [@baloney](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/baloney)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/49 "2019-10-17T20:28:17Z")

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If any of you insufferable pedants actually knew anything about language you would know it’s a tool to relay information, not a science. There are no natural laws regarding language, only rules that some dead bourgeois pricks came up with to further entrench class divisions. Calling out someone else’s grammar “errors” only reveals yourself to be a boring dinosaur that’s afraid of change in the world. Grow up.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/50 "2019-10-17T23:08:36Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/e/1ec08e5ba2944cb537749d68831ec11f6a160cdd.png)  
Killah Bee o7

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/51 "2019-10-19T22:43:58Z")

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> [@baloney](#):
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> Grow up.

MAKE ME

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**Author:** ![Orochimaru\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orochimaru_angel/32/368310_2.png) [@Orochimaru\_Angel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orochimaru_Angel)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/52 "2019-10-20T05:48:01Z")

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Killa bro. Sry to hear, but rl is worth it.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/53 "2019-10-21T11:16:40Z")

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I agree, get rid of the CSM and return the game to the players hands like it was before the Null alliances took over and determined what would be.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/54 "2019-10-21T11:19:45Z")

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If you knew anything about language, you wouldn’t use it when referring to language but rather, …“anything about language you would know that language is a means of relaying of information.” Language is not a tool. Language is a method of expressing. A tool is method of digging or hammering something.

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**Author:** ![baloney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baloney/32/157031_2.png) [@baloney](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/baloney)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/55 "2019-10-21T19:56:24Z")

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What are you on about

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**Author:** ![Fonsari\_Sepras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fonsari_sepras/32/145911_2.png) [@Fonsari\_Sepras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fonsari_Sepras)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/56 "2019-10-23T11:40:17Z")

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Even CCP hates them.

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**Author:** ![Tl-lOR\_Gods](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tl-lor_gods/32/387379_2.png) [@Tl-lOR\_Gods](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tl-lOR_Gods)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/57 "2019-10-24T18:42:13Z")

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The CSM is a collection of players that arguably know the game better than most and it’s extremely valuable for CCP to hear in-depth opinions of how they view the game and what could be improved.  
It’s very common for gaming companies to invite their top players/streamers to help improve the game because their insight is so valuable.

You can always argue about the specifics of how the CSM should be put together but there is no doubt in my mind that they fill a VERY important role.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/58 "2019-10-25T04:03:21Z")

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Suck up all you want, they’re still not inviting you to their party.

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**Author:** ![Nephew\_Ruckus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nephew_ruckus/32/199845_2.png) [@Nephew\_Ruckus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nephew_Ruckus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/59 "2019-10-28T03:35:59Z")

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Love to see a UP or DOWN vote to abolish the CSM completely! I respect the CSM but they are useless to me. The idea of me going thru another customer is idiotic. Obviously that Customer is going to have their ( alliance) goals first.

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/killah-bee-resigns-from-the-csm/195610/60 "2019-10-28T12:48:03Z")

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> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#):
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> Sadly it is not always those for whom English is a second language to blame - I remember some posts from Fozzie (and others) that I had to read 3 or 4 times to understand.

Fozzisov still doesn’t really make sense all these years later, no matter how many hundred times its been re-read.

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