# L2/L3 Mission blitz fit **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [June 21, 2019, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711 "2019-06-21T10:42:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/42 "2019-06-26T16:42:28Z")
> [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > You dont need tank. You have range. lol. Either your blitz, or you remain at range. The moment you want to take that mission item, you need to facetank the DPS of the whole room. Some missions are doable with a very low amount of tank/ DPS. but those are a very small number. Try to blitz [cut-throat competition](https://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=CutThroatCompetition3) with a bellicose and tell me how it goes. (300 DPS, depends on luck. The bellicose lasts 30s) Or deadly arrival (not sure though, maybe it’s doable) I’ve tested L3S with passive cynabal with AC, passive drake, and the cynabal is worse than the drake, mainly because AC lack range (though the 50mn helps in getting in range) I’ve tested with machariel and it’s too easy. ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/43 "2019-06-26T16:56:43Z")
I guess something happened between me running lvl 3s and now. Also, if you were actually Blizing you just skip some missions. You just know what missions not to do. In the mission you were refering to you will potentially have to handle 18 Cruisers and 10 BCs. thats not exactly a blizworthy mission 🤣 Now, I admitted I would rather do it in a Bellicose for the funfactor but still, I believe that my memory serves me well here. we’ll see. About the Cynabal. Start piloting and stop “getting into range”. Do it right and it wont cost you any time. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/44 "2019-06-26T17:01:19Z")
> [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > In the mission you were refering to you will potentially have to delete 18 Cruisers and 10 BCs. thats not exactly a blizworthy mission If you kill all those rats in that mission, you are not blitzing it. Because you don’t need to. > [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > About the Cynabal. Start piloting and stop “getting into range”. Do it right and it wont cost you any time. Again, blitzing assume you complete the mission the fastest. If you take your whole time you are not blitzing -.- . So NOT getting into range is NOT blitzing. ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/45 "2019-06-26T17:03:04Z")
I kinda said deal with but ok. 😛 So blizing is warping in and start blapping. No flying needed. Got it and I stand corrected. So, the Machs blizing L4s are not blizing because there are fits out there with both more DPS and range. Still its the king of Blizing. I need to try lvl 3s again. Been to long. I just remember asking myself why the hell ppl needed BCs for these when I lold through them in a Bellicose. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/46 "2019-06-26T17:15:08Z")
> [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > So blizing is warping in and start blapping. No flying needed It’s go fast to the objective and behead the enemy. It’s opposed to the “full clean” approach. The idea is that the value of the loot/bounty/salvage is not good enough, compared to the minimum isk value of completing the mission (the ratio isk/time is thus actually lower with non-blitz). comes from > **[Blitzkrieg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzkrieg)** > > Blitzkrieg (/ˈblɪtskriːɡ/ BLITS-kreeg, .mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}German: \[ˈblɪtskʁiːk\] ⓘ; from Blitz 'lightning' + Krieg 'war') or Bewegungskrieg is a word used to describe a combined arms surprise attack using a rapid, overwhelming force concentration that may consist of armored and motorized or mechanized infantry formatio... also blap means to use very few shots (1 or two) to kill a target. " rofl he blapped that tengu in his nade" ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/47 "2019-06-26T17:20:24Z")
Ty for clearing up things that dont need to be cleared up. In light of the fact that not every ship can be the fastest I will always keep something like a bellicose in my hangar when blitzing my lvl 3s in my heavy ass barghest 🤣 I just find it funny that your first suggestion is a Barg. Then you tell me its about being the fastest and then you follow up with saying that the Mach is to easy? Bellicose ❤ Barg is to easy 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/48 "2019-06-26T17:32:38Z")
> [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > I just find it funny that your first suggestion is a Barg. Then you tell me its about being the fastest and then you follow up with saying that the Mach is to easy? Yes. Because I actually tried it before giving my opinion. > [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > Barg is to easy 😉 and actually faster than a mach because highest projection. ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/49 "2019-06-26T17:43:12Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I just find it funny that your first suggestion is a Barg. Then you tell me its about being the fastest and then you follow up with saying that the Mach is to easy? So its a fact that the Mach is to easy because you found Barg to be not that easy? > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > and actually faster than a mach because highest projection. I have no doubt that you were faster in a Barg. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/50 "2019-06-26T17:45:51Z")
> [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > So its a fact that the Mach is to easy because you found Barg to be not that easy? Where did I say that the barg was not easy exactly ? > [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > I have no doubt that you were faster in a Barg. I had, because mach has +warp speed and + speed. That’s why I tested it. ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/51 "2019-06-26T18:16:25Z")
I have a feeling that we are on different lvls of serious here. Even though I have serious doubts that a Barg will bliz lvl3s faster than a Mach, thats not why I entered this topic. Granted I havent tried lvl3s in years but my memory tells me that I had zero issues with blizing (Aw ■■■■ i did it again 🤭 ) L3s fast in a Bellicose. I do understand that it wont be the fastest out there but I seem to remember that I experienced acceptable amounts of boredom while quickly chaining L3 missions 2 at a time. So I exit with something thats easy ( 🕶 ) [Machariel, New Setup 2] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Co-Processor II 500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L [empty high slot] Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/52 "2019-06-26T18:20:50Z")
You don’t need the rep in a mach, the L3s can be done on buffer only. And also, hyper T2 please And also, 3 nanos instead of tracking enhancer and coproc And also, an tractor beam 😃 But first, you did not answer my question : > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Where did I say that the barg was not easy exactly ? > [@Chaz\_Aa](#): > > my memory tells me that I had zero issues with blizing (Aw ■■■■ i did it again 🤭 ) L3s fast in a Bellicose. That’s because you’ve actually never blitzed them, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Chaz\_Aa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaz_aa/32/258253_2.png) [@Chaz\_Aa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaz_Aa)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/53 "2019-06-26T18:40:42Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And also, an tractor beam Yes, I give you that one. I even have that on my mach that have been sitting and rotting for… years. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And also, 3 nanos instead of tracking enhancer and coproc Where did that extra low come from? 🤣 > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > You don’t need the rep in a mach, the L3s can be done on buffer only. Nono. You dont need buffer. You can rep it! > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And also, hyper T2 please lol the alpha forumist. Way to go! 🤣 > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Where did I say that the barg was not easy exactly ? You didnt and I also never implied that you did. What I did was to have some fun with the serious tone you were having. Now Im not sure anymore. I think you are picking up on the lol here. I think my Mach + the tractor ofc will beat your barg. WITH the T1 Hypers. With that Ill stop dragging your ego into ruining this thread more than we already have. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l2-l3-mission-blitz-fit/168711/54 "2019-09-24T18:40:49Z")
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