# L4 Fit For Tengu / Golem duo

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [July 7, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961 "2019-07-07T06:17:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Veldspar\_Annie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veldspar_annie/32/146602_2.png) [@Veldspar\_Annie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veldspar_Annie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/1 "2019-07-07T06:17:32Z")

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Howdy,

A friend and I are thinking of trying to run some missions together. I am aware that both of these ships can solo L4s, thats fine. We want to run them together.

We’d like to:

- Loot and salvage as we go
- Omni tank
- Not move slow as molasses

I was thinking the tengu could specialize in fighting small enemies and let the golem focus on pounding the big boys, that way each ship doesnt have to cover all the bases.

Anyways, given those parameters would love to see some mission fits.

Thanks for any help.

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**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/2 "2019-07-07T16:29:35Z")

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Yah, either ship alone is OP for Lv4 missions, but sounds fun teaming up and alleviating the boredom.

Here’s some forum links, nothing has changed recently so likely still relevant:

> [@Golem lvl 4 mission runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/golem-lvl-4-mission-runner/20975):
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> Grettings fellow capsuleers, In a few days i will get my hands on the beast called the Golem, which means i’ll need a shiny new fit to use with my newly purchased Golem. I was looking at the wiki and found this fit… [Golem, Lv4 Mission Runner] Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Bastion Module I Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Salvager II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Cal…

> [@Tengu lvl4 mission runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tengu-lvl4-mission-runner/14040/2):
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> Imo this is the classic mission tengu, can swap to Heavy Missiles fairly easily. for lv4s it’s over tanked, can easily speed and sig tank almost all the lv4 damage, just clear out the frigs as they can web, and that’s your only threat. If you just want to face tank everything you could throw on a large booster and a cap battery. You can also swap the rigs around, this is the max dps setup, can add more missile range or application if you like. [Tengu, Pve Hams] Caldari Navy Ballistic Cont…

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**Author:** ![Veldspar\_Annie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veldspar_annie/32/146602_2.png) [@Veldspar\_Annie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veldspar_Annie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/3 "2019-07-07T18:07:26Z")

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Thanks for the links @M_Cincinnatus I will take a look.

The only thing different I can think of is that I know in some golem fits for example they rig a certain way in order to better hit small ships. I need to read up more on the rigs, I guess thats the only real spot where you might rig the tengu and the golem differently since theyre going to specialize a bit (assuming thats not a foolish idea).

Anyways thanks for your help.

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**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/4 "2019-07-07T18:38:02Z")

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If you feel you need more input, hopefully someone will be along that has a lot more experience.

I prefer Kronos when running Lv4’s. Launchers and turrets have their advantages and disadvantages, but I really enjoy turrets in that you can insta-blap small targets at range. Just a matter of prioritizing targets, having the right fit, and knowing your ranges.

However, most of my missiles experience comes from flying cerb in Abyss. AFAIK, the above links seem to have the rigs/mods for hitting small targets as best they can. Also, small npc’s in Lv4’s are generally nowhere near as tough as Abyss, so they shouldn’t be too much trouble. One addition would be to use faction missiles against small targets, T2 ammo against large, in my experience. Maybe someone else has better advice tho.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/5 "2019-07-08T09:09:10Z")

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> [@Veldspar\_Annie](#):
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> a certain way in order to better hit small ships

dual rigors T2.  
There is no point in putting flares, because rigor impact the speed ratio and the sig ratio, but flare only impact the speed ratio.

but really, use precision missiles against small targets, and fury against the others. Don’t forget to paint them black.

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**Author:** ![Mega\_Face](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mega_face/32/359765_2.png) [@Mega\_Face](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mega_Face)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/6 "2019-07-14T11:09:57Z")

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This is like using a sledge hammer to drive a nail. Marauders are naturally cumbersome, lumbering behemoths (with a module that makes them completely stationary) which is ironic given that their name implies the opposite. If you’d both like a real challenge try L5s, Incursions or Invasions. That’s more suited for the hulls you’re bringing.

Or if you’re doing it purely for fun then downgrade those hulls to like AF or T1 cruisers. Doing them in T2 frigates will give you both good transitional experience for duo abyssal or burners.

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**Author:** ![Rayaghuma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rayaghuma/32/132746_2.png) [@Rayaghuma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rayaghuma)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/7 "2019-08-05T16:42:03Z")

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if you got a few bucks saved, it’s definitely worth it…  
But you can replace all thigs with cheaper T2 stuff of your choice

[Golem, Devil’s Right Hand]  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
‘Page’ Capacitor Flux Coil I

Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery  
Missile Guidance Computer II  
Domination Heavy Stasis Grappler  
Republic Fleet Target Painter

Dread Guristas Torpedo Launcher  
Dread Guristas Torpedo Launcher  
Dread Guristas Torpedo Launcher  
Dread Guristas Torpedo Launcher  
Bastion Module I  
Salvager II  
Salvager II  
Corpus X-Type Heavy Energy Nosferatu

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Hornet II x15

Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo x7252  
Missile Range Script x1  
Missile Precision Script x1  
Antipharmakon Thureo x2

[Tengu, Predator IV - Mision Runner]  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field  
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner  
‘Thurifer’ Large Cap Battery  
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger

[Empty High slot]  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Ancillary Current Router II  
Medium Ancillary Current Router II  
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Tengu Core - Augmented Graviton Reactor  
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node  
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay  
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Nanite Repair Paste x767  
Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x5428  
Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile x1292  
Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x12489

Both fits cut through the enemies like a hot knife through butter. The Tengu is fast and quick on targets, the Golem focuses on Looting and Salvaging and can even 1-shot smaller L4s (Frigs, Destr.)

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**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/8 "2019-08-06T04:58:43Z")

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The Golem does everything you want on its own. Bring your mate along if he wants to observe. 😉

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/9 "2019-09-02T09:23:54Z")

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imo when running dual ships it takes too much focus and effort to endure with highly efficient setups, like HAM + other where you have to constantly approach targets.

For Tengu i prefer a setup like this

[Tengu, T2 Tengu]  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System  
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier  
Gistum B-Type Medium Shield Booster  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Gistum B-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive  
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Missile Launcher II  
Heavy Missile Launcher II

Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II  
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II  
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Tengu Core - Augmented Graviton Reactor  
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node  
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay  
Tengu Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x2048  
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x10180

But i just run through missions blitzing them, picking up elite drone AI’s etc. If i added a golem? tbh to maximize profit and lower the amount of focus needed, id simply run them separately, run two missions at the same time.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/l4-fit-for-tengu-golem-duo/172961/10 "2019-12-01T09:23:58Z")

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