# Lady Melisande Galena wants to insert a TCMC into a freedwoman

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669 "2017-08-09T22:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/81 "2017-08-11T18:23:07Z")

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Are you expecting?

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/82 "2017-08-11T19:07:33Z")

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Well, sort of by definition any regular contact where an abuser focuses their attention on you is an abusive relationship. From that standpoint you were in one.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/83 "2017-08-11T19:08:14Z")

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You should come for drinks again. Do I have to throw a new party for this?  
Theme will be garden party.

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/84 "2017-08-11T19:17:35Z")

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It’s always good to party in a Lady’s garden…

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**Author:** ![Ioannis\_Sepphiros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ioannis_sepphiros/32/380131_2.png) [@Ioannis\_Sepphiros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ioannis_Sepphiros)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/85 "2017-08-11T19:19:29Z")

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At least let something good come out of this post…

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**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/86 "2017-08-11T19:32:27Z")

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Ohhhh! A party!

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**Author:** ![Natheniel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natheniel/32/335078_2.png) [@Natheniel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natheniel)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/87 "2017-08-11T20:02:26Z")

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This thread, I don’t like it. It has hurt my head in so many ways.

Nauppy has a girlfriend?

Diana Kim is speaking reason?

My world view cant handle these kinds of upsets.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/88 "2017-08-11T20:21:54Z")

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> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#):
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> Well, sort of by definition any regular contact where an abuser focuses their attention on you is an abusive relationship. From that standpoint you were in one.

That seems a little … over-general? … Ms. Ember. One of the primary characteristics of a classic abuser situation, if I understand it right, is a sharp power differential, where the abuser wields not only violence, but deep psychological control over the abused.

It’s hard to be in contact with a person without some manipulation (broadly construed) occurring, but I never felt I was exactly a leaf in a hurricane. I even gave the authority to pull the plug on my dealings with him to someone I trusted, just in case.

Maybe it was futile to try, but, I don’t think I want to be a person who’d just assume such a thing.

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**Author:** ![Casserina\_Leshrac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/casserina_leshrac/32/310487_2.png) [@Casserina\_Leshrac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Casserina_Leshrac)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/89 "2017-08-11T21:08:41Z")

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I am indeed expecting in about four and half months.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/90 "2017-08-11T21:59:50Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> One of the primary characteristics of a classic abuser situation, if I understand it right, is a sharp power differential, where the abuser wields not only violence, but deep psychological control over the abused.

Just means he’s not a _successful_ classicist.

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/91 "2017-08-12T11:33:42Z")

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> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#):
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> Weren’t you the one trying to summon demons not so long ago? And now you’re accusing someone of laying with them. Suggesting that such is bad. Could you redefine your principles for us? Just so we can follow the convoluted path of logic your accusations are taking.
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> Thanks

I summon demons by the power of God, the Red God, the Blood God and all other divine names and bind them to a holy and divine purpose. I have never summoned a succubus for my own pleasure.

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/92 "2017-08-12T11:37:08Z")

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I find the accusation that I have _abused_ Aria Jenneth to be offensive.

The only possible weakness Aria ever showed me was when she begged me with teary eyes to call off this year’s One Million Slave sacrifice and then when she cried into my robe when I said that I would. Her affection for slaves is very touching, if altogether misguided.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/93 "2017-08-12T12:54:41Z")

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> [@Nauplius](#):
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> I have never summoned a succubus for my own pleasure.

What about other people’s?

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/94 "2017-08-12T12:56:06Z")

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Reassuring yourself that you’re not being abused is part of the process, I’m afraid.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/95 "2017-08-12T14:36:57Z")

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> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#):
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> Reassuring yourself that you’re not being abused is part of the process, I’m afraid.

Of course it is. But is me saying I don’t think I am/was really evidence that I really am/was?

(Or was?) (Or am?)

… I kind of feel like there is actually a party here who isn’t listening to the other. I hate to make trouble for the Praefecta, but, maybe you could speak to her if you really think this is a problem? It’s pretty clear you think my judgment’s distorted, in which case I can’t blame you. Maybe you’ll listen to someone who’s not as close to the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Casserina\_Leshrac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/casserina_leshrac/32/310487_2.png) [@Casserina\_Leshrac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Casserina_Leshrac)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/96 "2017-08-12T15:53:35Z")

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> [@Nauplius](#):
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> I summon demons by the power of God, the Red God, the Blood God and all other divine names and bind them to a holy and divine purpose. I have never summoned a succubus for my own pleasure.

Correction - attempted to do. Failed in every respect. Just because you think you can make a ritual doesn’t mean it works.

Sleeping with a Caldari Servant does not bring you any closer to Red God then killing 1,000 Matari.

A real Sani Sabik would ritualistically kill the ones they love. Turn their Blood into real Bloodwine and their Flesh into a Tome of the Apocryphon.

You have no evidence of this.

You say you love this girl, then you would do what is right.

Sani Sabik sacrifice those things we covet. Otherwise it’s just murder.

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**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/97 "2017-08-12T16:14:16Z")

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Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling him to _sacrifice_ his gf?

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/98 "2017-08-12T16:20:46Z")

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You can’t possibly be surprised at this point. Sani Sabik, remember? Perpetually competing to see who can out-edge the rest.

Then again, it’s not like people listened when I first pointed this out so perhaps it is a surprise.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/99 "2017-08-12T17:10:16Z")

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Remember that one time I pretty much shouted this from the heavens and everybody but you and a few others told me to relax and stop being so principled?

Good times.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lady-melisande-galena-wants-to-insert-a-tcmc-into-a-freedwoman/15669/100 "2017-08-12T17:13:47Z")

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I’m not. Napkins isn’t truly capable of valuing anyone _else_. The only person or thing that’s important to him is him. If he really wanted to offer a sacrifice that’s, you know a _sacrifice_… he’d have to rip out the plugs and kill _himself_.

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