# Lancers are killing unsuspecting pilots

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [February 10, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463 "2025-02-10T23:50:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/41 "2025-02-11T11:18:18Z")

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There is no mention that Dread Lancers can prevent people from using stargates even if that was intended its kind of messed up not to properly warn people about the introduction of something like that

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/42 "2025-02-11T11:21:44Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/5/9/b59253d8be1f993e5a3eae7c721fca009b052167.png)

FYI All ships have a jump drive - used by subcaps to jump stargates, and additionally used by most caps to jump to Cynos. So it is in the info you linked.

It’s also coming up on two years.

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/43 "2025-02-11T11:25:13Z")

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You crack me up

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/44 "2025-02-11T11:26:02Z")

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It’s also explicitly explained in the patch notes:

> **[Viridian: Expansion Notes | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/viridian-expansion-notes)**
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> The expansion notes for the upcoming Viridian expansion are now available.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/optimized/4X/c/4/5/c45f33aecd67c360e8b32c7a92d678ae15c4b43e_2_690x72.png)

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/45 "2025-02-11T11:26:47Z")

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Yep, CCP pretty much told us that any ship at the receiving end of a lance is stuck in space. No warping, no jumping, no docking.

For details you can find numerous guides and videos that have been made in the two years these ships exist.

[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Dreadnoughts](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Dreadnoughts)

Is one.

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/46 "2025-02-11T11:27:21Z")

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You screencapped the wrong part, but at least its in the patch notes

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/47 "2025-02-11T11:28:58Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> No docking, no jumping, no docking.

😊

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/48 "2025-02-11T11:29:19Z")

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> [@Bakster\_Kane](#):
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> But there has to be a better way than a blog post which dont even mention the potential for “abuse”.

You might as well say you are now proven 100% wrong about calling this abuse, right?

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/49 "2025-02-11T11:29:49Z")

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I consider lancing JFs like the KM in op “abuse”

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/50 "2025-02-11T11:30:07Z")

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Oops, one was meant to be ‘warping’. Fixed!

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/51 "2025-02-11T11:30:17Z")

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Except it’s in the article and patch notes as a feature, so not abuse

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/52 "2025-02-11T11:32:01Z")

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What do you think the intention of the Lance Dreadnaughts was?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/53 "2025-02-11T11:32:26Z")

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To stop ships like jump freighters from safely taking gates amongst other things.

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/54 "2025-02-11T11:32:46Z")

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> [@Bakster\_Kane](#):
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> What do you think the intention of the Lance Dreadnaughts was?

I think this is the purpose of the disruptive lance module:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/f/e/3feb2d74f31b2ced5ce7f48a122841d933dd7ecf.png)

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/55 "2025-02-11T11:34:03Z")

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Why did they design something like that you think?

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/56 "2025-02-11T11:34:36Z")

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> [@Bakster\_Kane](#):
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> Why did they design something like that?

Because the game being the same year after year is boring

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/57 "2025-02-11T11:40:28Z")

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Not sure it made the game better

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/58 "2025-02-11T11:40:49Z")

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Well you can never make everyone happy eh

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**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/59 "2025-02-11T11:41:40Z")

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Who was supposed to be happy about this?

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**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/60 "2025-02-11T11:43:14Z")

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The guy who killed your friend, for one

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