# Lancers are killing unsuspecting pilots **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 10, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463 "2025-02-10T23:50:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/101 "2025-03-27T15:03:26Z")
When you nerf jump freighters you make null sec less attractive ---
**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/102 "2025-03-27T15:04:03Z")
lol.. no.. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/103 "2025-03-27T20:24:36Z")
No, they were too safe previously. I feel sorry for those that lost them without realising but that is how things go with game changes. Whenever I take a break and return I ask people I know what has changed as well as read up on things. I have missed a few things, but the lancer dreads was one I picked up on. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/104 "2025-03-27T20:26:46Z")
How do you know JFs were/are too safe? Genuinely curious ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/105 "2025-03-27T21:07:58Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Null sec should be the most attractive and vibrant space It would be if it were not infested with **F1 Monkeys** that litter the place with used bubbles. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I feel sorry for those that lost them Why? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/106 "2025-03-27T22:35:30Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > How do you know JFs were/are too safe? Genuinely curious Because there was no way to lose one of them if you played well. This means they were too safe. I realise this is a hard concept to get for someone who comes with suggestions like “add a new mid slot item that allows every hauler to align within 2 seconds” for near-total hauler invulnerability, but it is actually **bad** for the game when certain ships cannot be killed. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/107 "2025-03-28T17:40:46Z")
It is a major hit for even wealthy players. > [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > How do you know JFs were/are too safe? Genuinely curious @Gerard_Amatin answered the reason why, they were too safe, if you did it right there was no risk and they were totally safe. I explained above what was required to kill them previously, it required a pilot error. That is it. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/108 "2025-03-29T22:19:11Z")
aren’t you suppose to leave the game ? ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/109 "2025-05-01T07:55:35Z")
Except you can’t have a Lancer Dreadnought in hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/110 "2025-05-01T08:19:09Z")
A good jf pilot was basically unkillable. With an emergency exit cyno ready to go, you could hold your gate cloak, light the cyno, decloak and jump on the same server tick. About the only serious danger they faced was a kickout station in 0.0, which no savvy jf pilot would ever use. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lancers-are-killing-unsuspecting-pilots/476463/111 "2025-07-30T08:19:25Z")
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