# Laugh on / learn from my defeat and hear my vow of revenge

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 19, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584 "2026-09-19T14:15:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/21 "2026-09-20T01:31:24Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Well that has to be a very long time ago.

It was. It was during a hiatus I took from nullsec at some point, and it was a good change of scenery. And back then I only had 1 account. I will probably do this again at some point. If I get kicked out, I get kicked out, but it’s not gonna happen because my tower is unfueled. (That was the only action I got in there back then. Some guys reinforced my POS in hopes that I hadn’t fueled it).

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/22 "2026-09-20T05:28:17Z")

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Under “negotiations” you mean “ransom demand”, right.

I never seeked out this group. I seeked empty wormholes. They were looking for victims to ransom. I will not pay. I will fight.

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/23 "2026-09-20T05:31:42Z")

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Nope. What you see is retaliation itself. I know better than to provide tears. I wrote these posts (here and reddit) because they clearly want to operate in secrecy. Any attention to them is harmful to them.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/24 "2026-09-20T05:59:58Z")

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Why did you attack undefended customs offices?

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/25 "2026-09-20T06:07:39Z")

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Because I wanted to live in those wormholes

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/26 "2026-09-20T16:45:38Z")

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So you are a colonizer?

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/27 "2026-09-20T18:21:45Z")

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Are you trolling? Everyone Wormhole has POCOs of someone and when someone new moves in, kills those.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/28 "2026-09-20T18:57:10Z")

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I’m just trying to determine who is the aggressor here.

It sounds like you went in someone’s hole, attacked them, and now you are pretending to be the victim??

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/29 "2026-09-20T19:29:32Z")

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Yeah and sometimes the owners of these POCOs aren’t as inactive as one might think and either defend their property or ask someone else to do it. So where is your problem?  
You tried to claim a whole solar sysem to exploit for yourself, grab the resources in it and make a living. And someone else tried to prevent that. He won, you failed. Business as usual in New Eden. Get over it and try somewhere else. Or grow stronger and try again. Or make a better plan. Or gather some friends… all up to you.

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/30 "2026-09-20T20:29:56Z")

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I already determined that you are just trolling.

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**Author:** ![Gevlon\_Goblin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gevlon_goblin/32/510901_2.png) [@Gevlon\_Goblin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gevlon_Goblin)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/31 "2026-09-20T20:30:34Z")

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That’s a fair point, but they attacked me in multiple wormholes. It’s unlikely that I randomly found multiple holes that is theirs.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/32 "2026-09-20T20:33:49Z")

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Look, you need to read the terms of service:

> There is an initial joining fee of 1 billion isk.

After payment, the POCO rate would have been set to 3%. However, you just came in guns blazing, like an absolute madman, and now the community has decided to close its PI network to you. If you were to consider replacing the POCO you destroyed, then we could perhaps reach an amicable settlement.

However, an apology is expected.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/33 "2026-09-20T23:01:09Z")

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> [@Gevlon\_Goblin](#):
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> It’s unlikely that I randomly found multiple holes that is theirs.

The attacked guys could have just asked around for help in forums, reddit, via connections to other corporations etc… and those guys responded. You realize that small corporations often network and keep loose contact to each other to pass on infos and maybe help if one gets in trouble?  
When I was on diplo service for a low-class wormhole alliance, I was present on more than 20 discords for exactly that purpose. Seek help, offer help, passing on informations, getting intel about possible problems.

Better realize that this game is a _mass multiplayer_ online game, where you will - solo - always be defeated by an opponent who communicates and cooperates.

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**Author:** ![Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ada_nadezna_d_terran/32/505310_2.png) [@Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ada_Nadezna_d_Terran)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/34 "2026-09-24T02:19:31Z")

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Aiko’s messages taken totally out of context:

“Are you a colonizer?”

“Sounds like you went into someone else’s hole”

you can tell that stuff is on her mind.

How’s a certain Chef doing sister? LOL

(for those who don’t know a certain princess has a certain love interest in game. For gossip you need to hunt for and manually find. on the forums Zaera is always chatting about her relationships in game but Aiko shows more about animal companions and less about her Matari homeboy.)

Oi, Aik, when you two have babies I want to be on FTL for the gender reveal. Maybe you folks honeymoon in some nice C5 somewhere out in Thera 😂

Gonna have multi citizenship too.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/35 "2026-09-24T17:48:14Z")

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That was a weird post.

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**Author:** ![Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ada_nadezna_d_terran/32/505310_2.png) [@Ada\_Nadezna\_d\_Terran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ada_Nadezna_d_Terran)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/laugh-on-learn-from-my-defeat-and-hear-my-vow-of-revenge/518584/36 "2026-09-24T19:42:25Z")

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502 people minimum. sorted through a lot. 492 with alliances and ice corp, likely more. plus 10 Chefs on EVEWHO no descriptions searched. pretty sure he did not have chef in his name.

was in description

def gonna to be a long time to find him again if you didn’t put it there then a corpmate did. check it!

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