# Leak or good sense of future? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 30, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112 "2018-06-30T13:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/21 "2018-06-30T15:33:18Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > When you think it’s fair and adds to the game-play, then you can answer the question with a Yes. or you can say No, when you think it shouldn’t happen more often. > > It’s a simple question, and not an offense or an insult. In this case I think it’s fair. Now for the next round of old POS stuff, I’m not against them doing it in the very same way. They could also just not announce the change at all, which might be even more interesting. In the end, I don’t really have a preference, as long as it’s not insider trading. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/22 "2018-06-30T15:48:38Z")
Capitalizm is it. Nothing new. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/23 "2018-06-30T15:48:50Z")
Frankly, the question is pointless, because we are talking about an exceptional situation where a set of modules shall be removed from the game. They will do it again if more modules need to be removed which don’t have an obvious successor. I’m still curious about the BPO replacement … ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/24 "2018-06-30T15:51:48Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Frankly, the question is pointless No, it isn’t. I’d like to know. I won’t judge. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/25 "2018-06-30T15:53:57Z")
They answer is, they should do it if it is necessary. It’s not that there is a choice of frequency as your question suggests. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/26 "2018-06-30T15:58:02Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > They answer is, they should do it if it is necessary. It’s not that there is a choice of frequency as your question suggests. I get that. You’d say no, not more often, but of course you’d accept the unavoidable cases. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/27 "2018-06-30T16:01:34Z")
No, that is not what I’m saying. I’m not suggesting one method over the other. Either replace with a successor or reimburse via materials. The only way I consider bad for the game is plain ISK injection by an NPC buy back program. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/28 "2018-06-30T16:02:40Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > I get that. You’d say no, not more often, but of course you’d accept the unavoidable cases. Of course CCP should not artificially create such situations. > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > I’m still curious about the BPO replacement … There is a reason why they avoid touching it. The old BPOs were way cheaper than their new equivalents. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/29 "2018-06-30T16:03:38Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > No, that is not what I’m saying. I’m not suggesting one method over the other. So you prefer not to answer the question. Is this correct? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/30 "2018-06-30T16:04:58Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > There is a reason why they avoid touching it. The old BPOs were way cheaper than their new equivalents. I know, and bought a bunch well below NPC price when they became “useless” … ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/31 "2018-06-30T16:05:20Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > So you prefer not to answer the question. Is this correct? Can you repeat or re-link the question? All I remember your specific question being “Should they do it again?” and this is really not precise enough in this case. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/32 "2018-06-30T16:08:23Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > I know, and bought a bunch well below NPC price when they became “useless” … Same here. I don’t really know how they can make this transition without completely devaluating the current BPOs or injecting a lot of ISK, in which case I’m curious how they would deal with ME/TE. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/33 "2018-06-30T16:12:48Z")
The question is if CCP should do this more often, meaning any type of change really, where a few random players get to profit from something CCP does. It’s not like the change to a blueprint only benefits industrialists, but it clearly benefits anyone who at the right time has the right amount of ISKs to buy into the market and make a profit. It’s kind of a raffle or a lottery really, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/34 "2018-06-30T16:20:14Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > It’s kind of a raffle or a lottery really, isn’t it? It’s capitalism, the same which makes RL tick. It happens with every change, everywhere, who gets it first and stays in a good spot will profit. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/35 "2018-06-30T16:21:53Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > It’s capitalism, the same which makes RL tick. It happens with every change, everywhere, who gets it first and stays in a good spot will profit. So that’s a “more often”, “less often” or “prefer not to answer” ? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/36 "2018-06-30T16:22:59Z")
You got your answer, nothing more to say. I’m out. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/37 "2018-06-30T16:24:29Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > This appears what Hoboleaks does and in a way so that all players, even without programming skills, can access it. From what I read, actually hoboleak decompiles the python code to extract the data differences on the computer that starts Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/38 "2018-06-30T16:25:43Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > You got your answer, nothing more to say. I’m out. So that’s a “prefer not to answer”. Thanks. Sorry if I’ve bothered you with my “less or more” question. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/39 "2018-06-30T17:21:09Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > The question is if CCP should do this more often, meaning any type of change really, where a few random players get to profit from something CCP does. This is a trick question, because it implies that in this case “a few random players get to profit from something CCP does”. It’s not the case. These POS modules were worth something when people got them, but they are not usable in-game anymore. CCP reimburses the players, because they artificially took something away from them. Some players decided to not keep theirs, but sell it on the market. Some traders decided to jump in, basically reimburse the players before the official reimburse would happen and hope for the final reimburse by CCP being higher. CCP decided to not give us XX Trillions and neither give us equivalent Citadel modules, but instead let us reprocess the _unusable_ POS modules with a higher yield. So while you give me 3 options, I choose No 4: you’re trying to trick me and that’s not nice. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112/40 "2018-06-30T17:23:41Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > So while you give me 3 options, I chose 4: you’re trying to trick me and that’s not nice. Sorry, was not my intention to trick you and I appreciate your input. So, judging only by your own understanding of the matter, would you want it to happen more often? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/leak-or-good-sense-of-future/86112.md?page=3)