# Left because of wardec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584 "2018-03-07T09:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/423 "2018-04-04T11:35:02Z")
yes… the FOCUS the CSM have on changing it, what they whisper in ccp’s ears… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/424 "2018-04-04T11:35:03Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > Telling him I also had those dreams… in the PAST. So what is your “dream” now, at this moment? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/425 "2018-04-04T11:35:41Z")
getting watchlist back, make focused wardecs viable again. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/426 "2018-04-04T11:35:51Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > yes… the FOCUS the CSM have on changing it, what they whisper in ccp’s ears… Are you implying a conspiracy? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/427 "2018-04-04T11:36:05Z")
No? why should I? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/428 "2018-04-04T11:37:13Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > No? why should I? Then what does the below mean, if not suggesting a conspiracy? > [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > yes… the FOCUS the CSM have on changing it, what they whisper in ccp’s ears… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/429 "2018-04-04T11:38:15Z")
its their job as csm, give ccp’s their views on what should be changed or fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/430 "2018-04-04T11:39:20Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > its their job as csm, give ccp’s their views on what should be changed or fixed. Fine. Are they not doing so then, now? If not, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/431 "2018-04-04T11:41:25Z")
what? They are, its just not my views. And why… I dunno… lack of experience, lack of knowledge, doesnt give a damn, hate wardeccers… take a pick 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/432 "2018-04-04T11:41:52Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > getting watchlist back, make focused wardecs viable again. Watchlist is one thing. Focused wardecs ARE a thing. Wardecs focus only on one corp. Watchlist is a separate mechanic. Dont confuse the two. Watchlist is intel. Wardec is the right to legally aggress. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/433 "2018-04-04T11:44:02Z")
hehe, now you just argue for the sake of arguing. You know very well what I mean… and I dont have to define what the difference on “focused wars” and “blanket decs” do I? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/434 "2018-04-04T11:44:27Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > They are, its just not my views. Too bad. I could have championed your views as a CSM, but instead the discord decided to attack me and threaten with blackmail. I did not apply. Did you? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/435 "2018-04-04T11:47:38Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > > > They are, its just not my views. > > Too bad. > I could have championed your views as a CSM, but instead the discord decided to attack me and threaten with blackmail. > > I did not apply. Did you? You did not run for CSM? To bad… it would have been fun to watch. You left the discord on you own accord man, and… whats this about blackmail? EDIT: You dont think my ideas is good, but you would have championed my views as CSM? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/436 "2018-04-04T11:47:46Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > I dont have to define what the difference on “focused wars” and “blanket decs” do I? Maybe you do. Not that the definition makes a difference. Every wardec is specific. How “focused” it is depends entirely on the initiator. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/437 "2018-04-04T11:51:30Z")
> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > You did not run for CSM? > > To bad… it would have been fun to watch. I did not, due to blackmail. Why that is bad, is because one of my top five priorities would have been Merc interests. Ive long had a respect for Ralph, and he taught me to understand his plight as a merc. > [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > You left the discord on you own accord man Yes, I did. > [@Lord\_Razpataz](#): > > You dont think my ideas is good, but you would have championed my views as CSM? Not your views, but the interest of Mercs being more prominent/empowered in the game. I want Mercs back, but not in the way you do, at least in part. There are other options to achieve the same result. Im quite serious, one of my top 5 priorities, would have been re-enabling Mercs. I think you are a crucial missing aspect of EVE. I couldnt run for CSM, cos I made a mistake in the Wardec Discord. There where a number of antagonists just waiting to jump on that, and blackmailed me not to do so. Had that not been the case, I promise you, I would have championed the Merc cause and mechanics to return them to their crucial (missing) position in EVE. Ask Ralph. He has seen me post consistently over many years to the effect of re-introducing Mercs, though my methods may differ from yours. Ive ALWAYS been for more Merc activity. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/438 "2018-04-04T11:54:35Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Not that the definition makes a difference. It does… A big one at that > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > There are other options to achieve the same result. So it’s either your option A or option B, because C, D, E, F are not ideas you thought of so they don’t make any sense? Lol ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/439 "2018-04-04T12:32:35Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > It does… > A big one at that What is the difference currently between 100 wardecs and 1 wardec? Only cost. Think about that. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > So it’s either your option A or option B, because C, D, E, F are not ideas you thought of so they don’t make any sense? Doesnt matter who thought of them. Only matters that it works. If C, D, E, F dont make sense, then they dont make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/440 "2018-04-04T12:39:59Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > What is the difference currently between 100 wardecs and 1 wardec? > > Only cost. Think about that. One group deccing only one other group will focus all of its energy on it One group deccing 100 will simply wait for any of those to show up… Except currently it’s not worth the effort trying to dec only one corp. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If C, D, E, F dont make sense, then they dont make sense. If they don’t make sense to you, doesn’t mean they’re not viable options to others. That’s the whole point of having more than 2 options… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/441 "2018-04-04T12:45:37Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Except currently it’s not worth the effort trying to dec only one corp. Wrong. Its currently not effort, its merely isk. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > That’s the whole point of having more than 2 options… Only one option is best. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/442 "2018-04-04T12:46:10Z")
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