# Left because of wardec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584 "2018-03-07T09:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/443 "2018-04-04T12:48:10Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > you should have be able to predict this reaction Teckos is infamous for claiming results/reactions are unpredictable. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/444 "2018-04-04T12:54:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Wrong. > > Its currently not effort, its merely isk. You need more effort for 1 war vs 100 That’s my point. Isk is irrelevant in this case. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Only one option is best. Didn’t they teach you about having multiple ways of approach in the army? Or did they only teach you line battles like in the 18th-19th centuries? The more options you have, the better … ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/445 "2018-04-04T12:57:11Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > You need more effort for 1 war vs 100 Surely its easier to wage one war, rather than a hundred? > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > The more options you have, the better … We can discuss options, but only one will be implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/446 "2018-04-04T13:04:21Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Surely its easier to wage one war, rather than a hundred? Not currently, since the removal of watchlists. 100 wardecs is about letting the content come to you. The wardeccers can trade hub hump, simply because people will fly there. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. 1 wardec requires the wardeccers to go hunt to find the targets and has become significantly more difficult since the weatchlist changes because it’s difficult to determine even if the target corp members are online. So a heap of effort is required to locate active targets, rather than just waiting for content to wander by. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/447 "2018-04-04T13:05:59Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Surely its easier to wage one war, rather than a hundred? How about you go try that theory? See how well it works for you… > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > We can discuss options, but only one will be implemented. Not if many are good A good example D-Day They had the options of a full frontal attack on the beach and Para drops behind enemy lines… They chose both 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/448 "2018-04-04T13:22:04Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > … I am aware of that. That’s the problem. But you are confusing finding targets, with war. Declaring 100 wars (for the cost of 100 wars as it is) makes it easier to find targets from any one of them, but that doesnt change the nature of each specific war. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > How about you go try that theory? Thats funny, since your wardec change proposal mirrors what I have posted/developed for years, when I never once saw you agree with any of it. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Not if many are good Only one will/would be implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/449 "2018-04-04T13:23:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I am aware of that. > > That’s the problem. > > But you are confusing finding targets, with war. > > Declaring 100 wars makes it easier to find targets from any one of them, but that doesnt change the nature of each specific war. If you already knew, then why ask a dumb question? As to the rest, it’s irrelevant, typical mental gymnastics. You can’t separate them logically as they aren’t different things. Targets are just part of what war is. If you think 1 war to prosecute is easier than 100, go do it. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/450 "2018-04-04T13:24:29Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > If you think 1 war to prosecute is easier than 100, go do it. Is not one war easier, and cheaper, than hundred wars, to persecute? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/451 "2018-04-04T13:25:02Z")
One wardec: “He’s somewhere in that direction. Let’s go find him. Chances he’ll come by are slim to none.” Hundred wardecs: “No matter where we go, there’s a good chance we’ll find a future dead guy, but we could also just sit here like fat, lazy basement dwellers and wait for the clueless ones to come here.” ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/452 "2018-04-04T13:26:04Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > persecute? You can’t persecute war. That makes no sense. However, if you think it’s easier to prosecute 1 v 100, then go do it. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/453 "2018-04-04T13:26:46Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > One wardec: > “He’s somewhere in that direction. Let’s go find him. Chances he’ll come by are slim to none.” > > Hundred wardecs: > “No matter where we go, there’s a good chance we’ll find a future dead guy, but we could also just sit here like fat, lazy basement dwellers and wait for the clueless ones to come here.” Exactly. For finding stuff to blow up, 100 wars is eminently better as the system currently is. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/454 "2018-04-04T13:30:09Z")
[Character] These fat-ass cowards should be forced to move their hairy asses out of the safety of the docking radius. They’re a ■■■■■■■ disgrace for every single capsuleer out there, on the same level as warpstabbed farmers and those chicken who dock up as soon as someone enters the system. [/Character] ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/455 "2018-04-04T13:30:18Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > You can’t persecute war. Persecuting is the correct term. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > it’s easier to prosecute Prosecution is a legal term unrelated to war. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/456 "2018-04-04T13:30:53Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Persecuting is the correct term. > > Prosecution is a legal term unrelated to war. lol on both counts. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/457 "2018-04-04T13:31:57Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Persecuting is the correct term. > > > > Prosecution is a legal term unrelated to war. > > lol on both counts. War is systemically persecution. Prosecution is different. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/458 "2018-04-04T13:32:57Z")
Persecution: > hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs; oppression. > “her family fled religious persecution” Prosecution: > the institution and conducting of legal proceedings against someone in respect of a criminal charge. > “the organizers are facing prosecution for noise nuisance” Difference: > The side carrying out the legal claim is also referred to as the prosecution. An attorney representing the accuser (usually the government) is a prosecutor. Persecute means “to harrass, or pursue in order to injure or afflict.” The act of persecuting is persecution. > What is the difference between “to prosecute” and “to persecute”? > Because both words have -secute which generally means “follow” or “follow through toward/until completion” the answer to your question lies in the different prefixes: > > “pro-” means “for the sake of/on behalf of” so prosecute is a verb meaning to follow through in process to bring a perpetrator to justice. This is why the main attorneys involved in bringing law-breakers to justice are officially called prosecutors. Prosecuting attorneys act on behalf of “the people” to bring indictments to violators. > > “per-” means “go through/cut into” so persecute is a verb meaning to engage in a process of harrassment or victimization. > > A person in a mental state of feeling persecuted tends to think that other [ill-intentioned or overly concerned for law enforcement] people are “out to get [do harm to]” them. Those who feel persecuted may be right or if they are wrong they could also be described as paranoid (unjustifiably afraid). ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/459 "2018-04-04T13:34:39Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Is not one war easier, and cheaper, than hundred wars, to persecute? > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > For finding stuff to blow up, 100 wars is eminently better as the system currently is. Which one is it then? Oh wait… doesn’t matter, you have no experience whatsoever with either :facepalm: ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/460 "2018-04-04T13:35:48Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > War is systemically persecution. > > Prosecution is different. War may involve systematic persecution against people, but that’s not what you wrote. You wrote that you persecute war. That makes no sense. You prosecute war: ![prosecute](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/7/274d05ba16599e04269cde3c55b1a1761acee124.png) ![persecute](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/8/989201d4b16fe88569c11185b6f57a178ac2390e.png) Typical Salvos idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/461 "2018-04-04T13:36:31Z")
Hey, I did it first and far better! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/462 "2018-04-04T13:50:06Z")
It seems you are completely incapable of discussing any topic without stumbling over some simple sentence or some words and then completely derail the thread for the next 100 posts obsessing about some detail. While in general your view does not seem to differ very much from mine, discussions always seem to go nowhere because of those obsessions of yours. Fix that [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584.md?page=24)