# Left because of wardec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584 "2018-03-07T09:18:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 26

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/503 "2018-04-04T16:50:29Z")

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> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#):
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> There’s more than one way to skin a cat Salvos 😉

Good luck then finding a way to do so, in regards to wardecs.  
Doesnt seem you have accomplished much so far.

Cat is still unskinned, and you cant agree on how to do it.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/504 "2018-04-04T16:55:47Z")

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I think I’ve accomplished more than you tho 🤣

Yes, the cat is still unskinned. And its ccp’s decision on what way the cat will be skinned, or if they want to touch the cat at all.

I’m just advocating what I think is necessary to skin the damn cat 😛

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/505 "2018-04-04T16:58:11Z")

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> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#):
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> I’m just advocating what I think is necessary to skin the damn cat

Then ask Dom why he doesn’t agree with your proposal.

> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#):
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> I think I’ve accomplished more than you tho

Think as you wish.  
I sure as fk have been far more active in related topics.

Dom clearly licks your butt, hes liked you 46 times, even with your small post history.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/506 "2018-04-04T17:08:35Z")

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Why?  
He has his way of skinning the cat, I have mine.  
Both might actually skin the cat, but until ccp decides their gonna skin the cat… we just have to give them different options and let them decide when they get to it.

Even in the CSM there’s arguments on how they should fix wars, and gave ccp two solutions (that I know of).  
Its either “you need a structure to wardec” or “you need a structure to be dec’d”

And as I said earlier… I’m doing my best to give them another option as I see their solutions would maul the cat, not skin it 😛  
If more people do that its good, then ccp have more to choose from right?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/507 "2018-04-04T17:10:20Z")

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Good luck.

I dont think either you/Dom are going to get anywhere.

There are reasons for that, but neither of you care/want to hear why.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/508 "2018-04-04T17:16:16Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I sure as fk have been far more active in related topics.

more active, yes. more on topic, no.  
all the threads are being salvoshed either way… do you think ccp dudes want to read the back and forth between you and other trolls? really effective way to get your point across 😛

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/509 "2018-04-04T17:18:49Z")

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Luckily for us, we aren’t pessimistic quitters.  
Luckily for us, we have solid ideas that we can present to CCP.  
Luckily for us, we know what is true, what is not, what is feasible, what is not.

And lastly, luckily for us, your only contributions to the matter were insults to people who’ve been doing this for years (as proven by your latest post)

🙂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/510 "2018-04-04T17:19:11Z")

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> [@Lord\_Razpataz](#):
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> more active, yes. more on topic, no.

Why do you still want my attention?

Go ahead and discuss your fail proposal on discord or here with someone that cares.  
Especially Dom whos ripped off proposal does not match yours.

Wardecs dont, and have never affected me in a way that I cant get around.

I tried to help, but got crapped on, so I’m out.

> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Luckily for us, we know what is true, what is not, what is feasible, what is not.

Good for you, even though you ripped your proposal off mine when you never supported me when I took the heat to develop them in hostile debate in hundreds of posts (including you).

I no longer give a fk about wardecs. Its not my problem, and never has been.

I dont think either of you are going to achieve any change the way you are going about it, but again, its no longer my problem.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/511 "2018-04-04T18:42:42Z")

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I was never emotional, and it’s good you are happy to accept the mechanics as they are, but they are players that don’t want to do that and are trying to find a solution to, what they are thinking is a problem. Because blanket wardeccs are problem, no matter how you thinks about it. If it wasn’t we won’t have 500 post about it.

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/512 "2018-04-04T18:44:04Z")

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Wardecs should be mutual plain and simple.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/513 "2018-04-04T18:54:38Z")

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Why should they?  
Elaborate

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/514 "2018-04-04T18:55:31Z")

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If both parties agree to the fight then it cannot be abused.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/515 "2018-04-04T19:01:57Z")

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It can be heavily abused lol  
You just made highsec 99% safer

Who would agree to fight?  
No one lmao

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/516 "2018-04-04T19:02:55Z")

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And its ok to blanket deck starter corps is it? Either way its being abused.

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/517 "2018-04-04T19:12:36Z")

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Wardecking was introduced so 2 parties fighting over resources could fight in high-sec without concord intervention. Its being abused and should be stopped.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/518 "2018-04-04T19:14:51Z")

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Because you don’t agree with it?  
Nah  
Because _it hurts noobs_  
Nah

Adapt or die pal

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/519 "2018-04-04T19:16:06Z")

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Nah because its toxic and needs eradicating.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/520 "2018-04-04T19:18:15Z")

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Troll trolling himself, to troll the thread:  
 ![Wave](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/f/cf3c98f902831877f7f207b3dbc2ba3b21e3d95e.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/521 "2018-04-04T19:19:45Z")

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Salvos quick look behind you Its ALIENS.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/522 "2018-04-04T19:25:13Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> I no longer give a fk about wardecs. Its not my problem, and never has been.

2 hours  
I thought you were done here?  
Came back to failtroll your way to the dungeons?

> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> Nah because its toxic and needs eradicating.

It’s not toxic. It’s part of the game as much as ganking, fozziesov, autopiloting, etc…

People that can’t find a way around obstacles are bound to fail from the start tbh

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