# Left because of wardec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584 "2018-03-07T09:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/523 "2018-04-04T19:26:18Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > I thought you were done here? I have not addressed wardec since. That’s what I said I was out of. You (and how many alts you use), Lord and others can argue that between yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/524 "2018-04-04T19:34:42Z")
Mass wardecking is a broken mechanic, that achieves nothing. As stated wardecking was for 2 parties to be able to fight in high-sec without concord intervention. Am i wrong? A bit like dueling but on a corp level and how many duels can you do at one time may i ask? One with no interference. 2 ships going at it until one is in a pod. So why should it be different when it goes up a level to corporations? ---
**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/525 "2018-04-04T19:39:39Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Mass wardecking is a broken mechanic, that achieves nothing There are a lot of killmails that say otherwise ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/526 "2018-04-04T19:40:51Z")
Wars are one of 2 mechanics that put danger in highsec, the other being ganking. Highsec should only be safer, not safe lol. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You (and how many alts you use), Lord and others can argue that between yourselves. I don’t need alts 🙂 Not on here because I’m not in the wrong 🙂 If you want to deal with me, do so ingame instead of continuously Salvoshing interesting threads. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/527 "2018-04-04T19:43:25Z")
I am a completely different entity to either of you. quick look behind you its aliens. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/3/1381987911843ba4b93e1f5304fff467a99d738f.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/528 "2018-04-04T19:52:08Z")
Yeah don’t care about killmails another broken mechanic of oohhh look at me im good i have 99% success rate etc etc blah blah. Like i give a fragg about that. How about oohh look at me i live in high-sec and abuse the system 99% blah blah blah. Only way to see whats real is look at the stats from low-null and wormhole discard high-sec results as ■■■■■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/529 "2018-04-04T19:59:29Z")
Take away all the blobs and LS/NS has ltitle to no solo pvp left tho 😉 And pvp is always one-sided… if it’s not then you fished up real bad ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/530 "2018-04-04T19:59:35Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Wardecking was introduced so 2 parties fighting over resources could fight in high-sec without concord intervention. Its being abused and should be stopped. Where did you get this from? Having read pretty much everything CCP has written about the wardec mechanics, I can’t recall this being the reason Wardecs are in the game, so just interested to understand where that is from. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/531 "2018-04-04T20:07:57Z")
Solo pvp in high-sec culminates in concord responding after someone explodes, not really mutual pvp is it. Why does concord respond if its a purely pvp game? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/532 "2018-04-04T20:08:52Z")
What No? Stop please. Go read about wars on E-UNI or something ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/533 "2018-04-04T20:10:14Z")
Why because i don’t agree with you? Regardless of how many likes you chuck me, at least salvos has pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/534 "2018-04-04T20:11:36Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > concord This word makes your post redundant, Concord don’t get involved in wardecs except for taking a bribe to look the other way while you explode your choice of prey. What you’re describing is a gank. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/535 "2018-04-04T20:13:11Z")
No concord reacts to unsolicited aggression. What i am describing is abuse of mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/536 "2018-04-04T20:17:02Z")
Nope. Concord reacts to unsanctioned aggression, unsanctioned aggression being the activation of an offensive module on another player/structure without any flags being in play. unsanctioned : lacking effective or authoritative approval or consent (in this instance, flags) unsolicited : not asked for or requested Two very different statements, one being the way you think Concord works, the other being the way that Concord actually works. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/537 "2018-04-04T20:24:03Z")
2 different statements same scenario same outcome abuse. Spin it how you want without approval or consent/ not asked for or requested. Still does not stop mass wardeccing and abuse of the system that was created for completely different scenarios of 2 groups being able to go at it over resources without concord intervention. Its being abused and needs to be changed. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/538 "2018-04-04T20:42:58Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Solo pvp in high-sec culminates in concord responding after someone explodes What? Same as the last question, wher are you getting this from? ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/539 "2018-04-04T20:47:40Z")
Its pretty much self explanatory. YAFI ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/540 "2018-04-04T20:56:43Z")
I’m not the one demonstrating their ignorance. 3 people have questioned your statement regarding solo PvP and Concord. Clarify what you mean, or we’ll continue to question it. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/541 "2018-04-04T21:11:15Z")
Seriously if you don’t see what was designed then its not my fault. Question CCP all fights between groups are meant to be over in game resources, not mass griefing techniques. Hitting new players in new corporations through wardeccs goes against the ethos of Eve Online. As if new player corps in high-sec can ever achieve what those out in Low/Null/wormhole can achieve is laughable. Yet those in high-sec are the most targeted within the game. Toxic gaming environment persists and CCP seem unable to deal with the cancer that is eating the game from the inside. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/542 "2018-04-04T21:23:29Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Seriously if you don’t see what was designed then its not my fault. Yes it is your fault, you made a statement and have flatly refused to clarify it. > Question CCP all fights between groups are meant to be over in game resources, \> not mass griefing techniques. Wardecs are not griefing, they are an intended game mechanic. > Hitting new players in new corporations through wardeccs goes against the ethos of Eve Online. Bollocks, new players in new corporations have been getting hit by wardecs since the day they were introduced, yet somehow the game managed to outlive almost all of its MMO brethern, despite being considerably more brutal than it is today. 🙄 > As if new player corps in high-sec can ever achieve what those out in Low/Null/wormhole can achieve is laughable. You’d be very surprised at what new players can achieve, especially when led by someone competent; the reason new payer corps get hit is that most of their leadership has very little knowledge about the game and its mechanics. > Yet those in high-sec are the most targeted within the game. Hisec is where the majority of people play, it is a target rich environment where a sizeable percentage of people are “asleep at the wheel”. Why wouldn’t people target easy meat? > Toxic gaming environment persists and CCP seem unable to deal with the cancer that is eating the game from the inside. People like you are what’s eating Eve from the inside. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584.md?page=28)