# Left because of wardec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584 "2018-03-07T09:18:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/604 "2018-04-29T14:41:19Z")

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So you are a legend in your own mind, that is fine, grow with it mate.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/605 "2018-04-29T14:44:04Z")

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I’ve read none but the last few posts in this thread, so what I say has to do with that.

Only a complete moron would insult someone for editing their post. Especially as these insults predominantly come from the grammar, capitalization and punctuation challenged.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/606 "2018-04-29T14:44:14Z")

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Doing things at an adult level is not legendary dude, not for the rest of us anyway.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/607 "2018-04-29T14:47:45Z")

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Yeah, I type very fast but I do make a lot of errors when I type, I correct it and then add additional items so as to not fill up the thread with my posts and yet these blowhards criticize me for it. It is amusing that they go for that rather than what I actually post.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/608 "2018-04-29T14:48:25Z")

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> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> Doing things at an adult level is not legendary dude, not for the rest of us anyway.

Perhaps you need to read a book by Diana West…

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/609 "2018-04-29T14:50:19Z")

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High-sec WarDecs need to be overhauled. Everyone knows this. Heck, even CCP is (finally) grudgingly acknowledging it. No one is happy with the current meta, be it attackers, defenders or players forced to the sidelines.

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/610 "2018-04-29T14:52:40Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> read a book by Diana West…

The website looked like political rubbish. You should read more books though, then you wouldn’t need to edit your posts 20+ times for spelling errors. Also try not to get so worked up when you post, this may also improve spelling.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/611 "2018-04-29T14:57:01Z")

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> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> The website looked like political rubbish. You should read more books though, then you wouldn’t need to edit your posts 20+ times for spelling errors. Also try not to get so worked up when you post, this may also improve spelling.

She had a book called the death of the grown ups, I think it applies to you rather nicely, one of the many books I have read.

So you can only criticise me for correcting my typing errors due to my rapid typing, not for what I say. As for my replies to you I use the same level of infantile one liners that you use, because that is all you deserve.

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This thread is about war dec, please try to keep up and refrain from being dumb

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/612 "2018-04-29T15:07:33Z")

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Let’s be real here Drac. I’ve criticised the things you say loads of times. This is the first time I’ve mentioned the edit bit, and only because it was brought up 😃

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/613 "2018-04-29T15:17:15Z")

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And yet it made you look dumb.

I edit my posts to correct typing errors and I also add additional points at times, I try not to remove things that make me look bad, you might have noticed one in C&P recently.

If you are triggered by Dumdum to post like that then you need to read that book, yes we all get triggered at some poimt, I actually like Dom as a person, but he really posts in a very aggressive way. You slip into that at times, but I love your Vindi fit.

You said what Salvos said was correct, and yet you had no idea what that point was really about, well I will spell it out for you, I see this game as being hard, I hunt and will do it over time, I pointed out to Salvos in another thread that delaying local made it too easy.

And yet I suggested that giving a sort of watch list to war deckers was OK, but that was because I recognized that they were in fact casual players. So what I said was, OK, you are casual and I will suggest this because hisec is causal, it did not mean that I agreed with that in terms of nullsec, because it is not casual and yet Salvos jumped in and said that and you backed him up to have a dig at me.

So what the hell do you know, as I said I have hunted people over many hours, so when I heard war deckers complain that they were unable to find and kill some one in 1 hour of play part of me was WTF but then I thought well it is hisec, which is causal player central.

Am I a hypocrite for that? Or trying to accept the reality of the situation. My real feeling is feck them, Eve is supposed to be hard.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/614 "2018-04-29T15:53:19Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Think before you open you mouth and accuse me of hypocrisy.

It is hypocrisy and bias.

You claim loss of Watchlist made hunting too hard, but then turn-coat and claim no immediate Local intel would make hunting too easy.

Those dont match, and show you are being dishonest and selective. Or stupid/inconsistent.

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/615 "2018-04-29T15:58:21Z")

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He’s gonna blame it on casual hisec vs ULTRA HARDCORE!!! nulsec.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/616 "2018-04-29T15:59:24Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> You claim loss of Watchlist made hunting too hard, but then turn-coat and claim no immediate Local intel would make hunting too easy.

They said that as hisec mercs, they said that they expected to find and kill something within one hour, which is not what I expect in nullsec as I pointed out in the other thread. And as I accept that hisec is for more casual players I accepted that more than I would with nullsec, you of course are too blinkered to see that. So you are being dishonest and stupid with trying to accuse me of being a hypocrite. So nullsec harder more effort to defend your space, hisec easier less effort, less reward etc.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/617 "2018-04-29T16:00:13Z")

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> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> He’s gonna blame it on casual hisec vs ULTRA HARDCORE!!! nulsec.

My dear boy, lowsec is where the real men are, such as you and your lovely Vindi, but do read that book, it will help you, I hope…

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/618 "2018-04-29T16:01:00Z")

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You have lost the plot, and got tangled up in your own web of lies/interest.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/619 "2018-04-29T16:02:18Z")

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Nope I am totally consistant, while you are trying too hard…

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/620 "2018-04-29T16:04:22Z")

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Your position is:

- No Watchlist makes hunting too hard.
- 30s Delayed Local intel would make hunting too easy.

Is the above accurate?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/621 "2018-04-29T16:10:17Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Your position is:
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> No Watchlist makes hunting too hard.  
> 30s Delayed Local intel would make hunting too easy.
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> Is the above accurate?

Too simplistic:

No watch list makes hunting too hard for hisec mercs because they told me that, I don’t agree with that but as it is a casual area I take their word for it.

Delayed local will make hunting too easy in the hard empire part of the game, and will favour BLOPS’s and other such get in and get out fast type play, reducing combat even more

As you don’t play that game in nullsec you have no idea…

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/622 "2018-04-29T16:12:50Z")

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Nah i think Salvos is right, you made two mutually exclusive statements and didn’t stick the landing. You also call people dumb while making hundreds of spelling errors and being unaware what dumb means. The irony is strong. If anything I talk too much 😊

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> lowsec is where the real men are, such as you and your lovely Vindi

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I love your Vindi fit.

Is there something i’m missing about my Vindi? I mean I’ve never lost one so you would have to have spoken to me (happens) personally or scanned me (happens too) to know the particulars of my fit. That said it’s just a PvP Vindi, they’re all pretty much fit the same or you’re doing something wrong. Anyway what are you eluding to, if anything aside from pointing out a ship I use for reasons?

I mean I’m much more in love with my Barghest right now cus it’s harder to fit / fly. Get with the times 😍

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> No watch list makes hunting too hard for hisec mercs because they told me that

Ganking makes EvE impossible for traders, they told me so… …

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/left-because-of-wardec/61584/623 "2018-04-29T16:19:23Z")

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> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> Nah i think Salvos is right, you made two mutually exclusive statements and didn’t stick the landing. You also call people dumb while making hundreds of spelling errors and being unaware what dumb means. The irony is strong. If anything I talk too much 😊

You would be better off not talking at all, but never mind, the detail is above, if you did not read it and understand it then yeah, you are dumb.

> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> Is there something i’m missing about my Vindi?

You sent it to me once, it is a mild piss take.

> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> I mean I’m much more in love with my Barghest right now cus it’s harder to fit / fly. Get with the times

Somehow I would expect that of you, kitey kitey gety outy…

> [@Keno\_Skir](#):
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> Ganking makes EvE impossible for traders, they told me so… …

I was told that no watch list makes hunting too hard by a number of hisec mercs in the war dec Discord, so go and ask that question to Noragen, Lord Raz and Ralph among a few.

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