# Let’s take a look at Jump Freighter Skills **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** guide\ **Created:** [August 29, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652 "2017-08-29T17:39:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shriven\_Intaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shriven_intaki/32/438718_2.png) [@Shriven\_Intaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shriven_Intaki)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/1 "2017-08-29T17:39:36Z")
For Null-Sec Alliances having Jump Freighters is a must. I’d think the average Alliance JF pilot sticks with Jump Drive Calibration (JDC) 5, Jump Fuel Conservation (JFC) 4 and Jump Freighter (JF) 4. JF 5 and JFC 5 are longer trains (to get both JF 5 and JFC 5 it would be 80+ days of training) and not 100% necessary while having the longer train to JDC 5 is pretty much mandatory for that extra jump range. I’ve been messing around with some comparison stuff for Jump Freighters mostly to see how Level 5 of JFC and JF affect the fuel costs. Using the [Dotlan Jump Planner](http://evemaps.dotlan.net/jump) I tossed in a route from Jita to M-MD3B for each JF and let it default the jumps how it liked, it went Jita to Fuskunen to Unertek to M-MD3B which is obviously not an ideal route but for the comparison it’ll work. Here’s what I came up with… | **Anshar** | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | _(max cargo capacity w/T2 Expanders = 356,240m3 and an align time of 27.2s)_ | | | | | | **JF & JFC (4/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/5)** | | | _Fuel: Oxygen Isotopes_ | | | | Jita to Fuskunen (9.875 ly) | 16,707 | 13,923 | 11,602 | | Fuskunen to Unertek (9.928 ly) | 16,798 | 13,998 | 11,665 | | Unertek to M-MD3B (8.139ly) | 13,770 | 11,475 | 9,562 | | Total Fuel Consumption | 47,275 | 39,396 | 32,829 | | Oxygen Isotopes Median Sell: | $780.00 | | | | Total Fuel Cost: | $36,874,500.00 | $30,728,880.00 | $25,606,620.00 | | **Ark** | | | | | _(max cargo capacity w/T2 Expanders = 349,763m3 and an align time of 26.1s)_ | | | | | | **JF & JFC (4/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/5)** | | | _Fuel: Helium Isotopes_ | | | | Jita to Fuskunen (9.875 ly) | 15,641 | 13,034 | 10,861 | | Fuskunen to Unertek (9.928 ly) | 15,726 | 13,105 | 10,921 | | Unertek to M-MD3B (8.139ly) | 12,891 | 10,743 | 8,952 | | Total Fuel Consumption | 44,258 | 36,882 | 30,734 | | Helium Isotopes Median Sell: | $693.93 | | | | Total Fuel Cost: | $30,711,953.94 | $25,593,526.26 | $21,327,244.62 | | **Nomad** | | | | | _(max cargo capacity w/T2 Expanders = 341,991m3 and an align time of 23.7s)_ | | | | | | **JF & JFC (4/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/5)** | | | _Fuel: Hydrogen Isotopes_ | | | | Jita to Fuskunen (9.875 ly) | 14,574 | 12,145 | 10,121 | | Fuskunen to Unertek (9.928 ly) | 14,654 | 12,211 | 10,176 | | Unertek to M-MD3B (8.139ly) | 12,012 | 10,010 | 8,342 | | Total Fuel Consumption | 41,240 | 34,366 | 28,639 | | Hydrogen Isotopes Median Sell: | $713.18 | | | | Total Fuel Cost: | $29,411,543.20 | $24,509,143.88 | $20,424,762.02 | | **Rhea** | | | | | _(max cargo capacity w/T2 Expanders = 373,081m3 and an align time of 27.8s)_ | | | | | | **JF & JFC (4/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/4)** | **JF & JFC (5/5)** | | | _Fuel: Nitrogen Isotopes_ | | | | Jita to Fuskunen (9.875 ly) | 17,774 | 14,811 | 12,343 | | Fuskunen to Unertek (9.928 ly) | 17,870 | 14,892 | 12,410 | | Unertek to M-MD3B (8.139ly) | 14,649 | 12,208 | 10,173 | | Total Fuel Consumption | 50,293 | 41,911 | 34,926 | | Nitrogen Isotopes Median Sell: | $795.86 | | | | Total Fuel Cost: | $40,026,186.98 | $33,355,288.46 | $27,796,206.36 | For all the JFs there are significant savings to be had training up JF 5 and/or JFC 5, a Rhea pilot with JF 5 and JFC 5 would save $12,229,980.62 on that one way trip – savings that would most definitely add up over time! Some other things of note: - The Anshar shows some good savings with JF 5 and JFC 5 has the second largest cargo bay and is a meagerly faster slug than the Rhea. - The Ark is nearly as cost effective as the Nomad with a slightly larger cargo bay but isn’t that much faster than the Anshar or Rhea. - The Nomad has the smallest cargo capacity, cost the least to run and is by far the fastest. - The Rhea has the largest cargo capacity, but cost the most to run and is a slug. Let me know if these numbers help you out in anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Roksana\_Kolesnikova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roksana_kolesnikova/32/16039_2.png) [@Roksana\_Kolesnikova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roksana_Kolesnikova)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/2 "2017-08-29T17:44:54Z")
Thats a really nice sheet! (I use Rhea coz the cargo space) ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/3 "2017-09-02T03:21:31Z")
Nice analysis. It’s good to see the values alongside each other and makes for objective comparison when it’s needed. Thanks. PS. As someone with a JF pilot having all three skill at V: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/f/df11205ab15077d184637ee75389777846d64f34.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/f/1fdc916dc1bf37c9909080d524fd78e23e48b519.png) It’s very much appreciated. I had never objectively looked at the benefit of training them all to V, but it seems over the long term, the return on that investment will more than pay for itself. ---
**Author:** ![Shriven\_Intaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shriven_intaki/32/438718_2.png) [@Shriven\_Intaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shriven_Intaki)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/4 "2017-11-22T08:16:37Z")
With the recent and upcoming changes to JF fuel these numbers will need another run through but I’m sure the benefits will be there with JF 5 and JFC 5. ---
**Author:** ![Shriven\_Intaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shriven_intaki/32/438718_2.png) [@Shriven\_Intaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shriven_Intaki)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/5 "2017-12-29T19:36:58Z")
I’m not sure if Dotlan has been updated with the recent fuel changes but once I am sure that it’s been updated I’ll get on redoing this comparison. I did take a quick look at the cost of Isotopes and from the time of the original post to now there has been some significant increases. With EVE Central down I’m using the [https://evemarketer.com/](https://evemarketer.com/) site to find prices for the Median Sell value. | Fuel Type | Median Sell | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | | August 29th, 2017 | December 29th, 2017 | % Change | | Oxygen Isotopes | $780.00 | $1,003.79 | 28.69% | | Helium Isotopes | $693.93 | $916.95 | 32.14% | | Hydrogen Isotopes | $713.18 | $1,181.76 | 65.70% | | Nitrogen Isotopes | $795.85 | $914.90 | 14.96% | ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-s-take-a-look-at-jump-freighter-skills/20652/6 "2018-03-29T19:37:06Z")
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