# Let us be part of the world : More in-game character presence **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 3, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056 "2024-12-03T15:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/22 "2024-12-05T18:02:14Z")
> [@Korben\_Miyuki](#): > > Why do we have a portrait of our character, an insight of how we look, with clothes, hairstyle, etc. ? > > If we can dress ourselves, what is it for ? As @Sara_Seraph said: > [@Sara\_Seraph](#): > > This game has had a life filled with these ideas, most of which have left little used images in the rich tapestry that is EVE. You have to look at the history of EVE to appreciate how we got to where we are now. In the beginning, character portraits were fairly primitive—orders of magnitude less customizable than they are now. And we had them because we (the human players) like to have face to identify our character with, and with which to identify others. When Incarna was released and WiS/Captain’s Quarters was introduced, we got the new, fancy character creator and full-body avatars (it was only a headshot before). We also got apparel and augmentations, and a currency called [Aurum](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Aurum) with which to buy them. This was when microtransactions were introduced to EVE. The stated goal at the time was to eventually allow characters to walk around in stations, go to bars, gamble in casinos, and do other stuff. In reality, all that ever came of the feature was a single room and a locked door (Captain’s Quarters). WiS/CQ withered on the vine, but the vestigial character creator remained, because (as it turns out) the microtransaction model still works, even without WiS. Players will pay to purchase apparel and augmentations, if only to dress up their character portrait and avatar. So, really, CCP figured out they could have their microtransactions without spending any more dev cycles on WiS. Anyway, that’s how we got dress-up dolls and no dollhouse. ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/23 "2024-12-08T19:44:09Z")
> [@Korben\_Miyuki](#): > > I want to feel the world, smell it, touch it. I’m willing to sell you some gamer guy bath water if you want? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/24 "2024-12-08T19:47:09Z")
> [@0ptimus\_Swine](#): > > I’m willing to sell Safe to assume @Chad_Frostpacker might be up for such an exchange. 😉 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/25 "2024-12-08T19:58:46Z")
I am no longer willing to sell my gamer guy bath water. Edit: Actually; how much? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/26 "2024-12-09T00:34:47Z")
It’s just a frozen corpse with some silly story of how it’s collected. It’s not bath water as it can’t be collected after the pod had ruptured in space. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/27 "2024-12-09T08:13:14Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > It’s not bath water Completely unrelated: > [@Looking for advice to round out my skill training](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-advice-to-round-out-my-skill-training/410609/12): > > I must of had a huge discount as my bottle just cost me a few thousand isk! laughing 😉 😊 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/28 "2024-12-09T10:00:53Z")
Yeah and had you bothered to ask why there is a goon who doesn’t see a smartbomb as a corpse collecting device ona Uedama gate camp? ---
**Author:** ![Korben\_Miyuki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korben_miyuki/32/442828_2.png) [@Korben\_Miyuki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korben_Miyuki)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/29 "2024-12-10T02:08:27Z")
😱 What ? haha I don’t drink from that kind of water, but thanks 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/30 "2024-12-10T07:44:29Z")
> [@Korben\_Miyuki](#): > > but We all know you already bought it through an alt. 😛 😏 😈 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/let-us-be-part-of-the-world-more-in-game-character-presence/470056/31 "2025-03-10T07:44:32Z")
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