# Let's go over the details on this 10 Milllion Isk Permit

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 8, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944 "2019-08-08T01:51:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/146 "2019-10-22T16:29:38Z")

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I will try to gank a freighter. No, why would anybody want unspiced wine??

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/147 "2019-10-22T16:31:24Z")

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Well you got me on that one why. Pray they find the lost forma to recreate beer

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/148 "2019-10-22T19:13:32Z")

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I’m sorry, but beer is only available for agents of the New Order.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/149 "2019-10-22T19:41:47Z")

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Well well , looks like we will need to gank your freighters then 🕶

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/150 "2019-10-22T19:48:01Z")

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We only produce craft homebrew beers.

They are never transported on a freighter, that is disgusting.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/151 "2019-10-22T19:49:21Z")

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Darn looks like we will need to do it with wine …will use neurotransmitters so my brain think it’s 🍺…🕶

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**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/152 "2019-10-22T21:03:43Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> James is King and Unbanned in Hek!
> 
> PRAISE BE!

Is that where he hangs out now?

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Well, actually its an anti-CODE thread, but I can see why you might think it is a promotional thread, since every anti-CODE argument eventually leads to _ **universal agreement** _ that James 315 is the rightful CEO of highsec.

Clearly, you and I have a different understanding of that phrase.

> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Oh yes, they are usually overzealous with lots of ideas about “optimising” our income, tracking permits and in general don’t get the humor of it. They usually quit pretty fast and become the “former fan” type rebels.

I’ll bet. Ever met anyone who joined CODE. that was genuinely malicious, or were you lucky enough to not have them taint your presence?

> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> People don’t get that we really just enjoy killing miners. Killing miners is absolutely hilarious.

In all honesty that the biggest reason I would never fit in with CODE. If you’re having fun with it then seriously, more power to you, but many reactions that I’ve seen just make me cringe, _especially_ the over-the-top rage and death threats! I mean, _good grief_, you’d think the ganker had been torturing puppies, the way some people react! (ಠ□ಠ)

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> It’s not a schtick, that’s what some people don’t understand. We actually believe this, so of course it’s not always a ‘funny’ joke or entertainment, because for us this is just like constantly having to explain the Constitution to a bunch of illiterate miners.
> 
> - James is the High King of Halaima and Kamio.
> - He inherited the fortunes of Currin and slew the beast BoB.
> - He was permabanned for the sins of the miners, but is arisen and resides in Hek!
> - Every miner needs a permit - no exceptions!
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> We are just trying to explain the basic facts of history and the legal framework of this civilization, so that miners understand how it came to be that the old empires were dissolved, and the New Order arose to replace them.
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> Miners often complain that they were never informed or given a proper warning - so what you see as shtick or humorless repetition, this is in fact the warning that miners have repeatedly requested. We aim to please, protect, and serve!

[_waves thurible in Aiko’s general direction_]

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**Away with ye** , deceitful spirits! Cloud not the Players’ minds, that they may know the proper venues for posting in-character!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/153 "2019-10-22T21:07:20Z")

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> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#):
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> Ever met anyone who joined CODE. that was genuinely malicious, or were you lucky enough to not have them taint your presence?

I am a Princess, and untainted by right of birth.

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**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/154 "2019-10-22T21:10:16Z")

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I was asking Karak. Besides, I thought you were [Queen Bavmorda](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/notice-hammered-to-james-315s-pod-veekay-tehsus-13-theses-for-the-new-order/131681/19)?

(Funniest thing I’ve read on these forums, BTW. _Perfect_ retort! 🤣)

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/155 "2019-10-22T21:26:53Z")

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> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#):
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> I’ll bet. Ever met anyone who joined CODE. that was genuinely malicious, or were you lucky enough to not have them taint your presence?

No, the overzealous kind are usually also completely incapable of doing anything at all but talk. And since they always quit just after a few days nothing really happens except some fun in the minerbumping channel. The people who get the kind of humor know what’s going on and are there to enjoy the game.

> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#):
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> In all honesty that the biggest reason I would never fit in with CODE. If you’re having fun with it then seriously, more power to you, but many reactions that I’ve seen just make me cringe, _especially_ the over-the-top rage and death threats! I mean, _good grief_ , you’d think the ganker had been torturing puppies, the way some people react! (ಠ□ಠ)

Fun fact: You actually get the most violent reactions from bumping and not from ganking for some reason. If you kill them most of them don’t even react. If you bump them they almost all completely explode. I find this very fascinating.

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**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/156 "2019-10-22T21:33:57Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Fun fact: You actually get the most violent reactions from bumping and not from ganking for some reason. If you kill them most of them don’t even react. If you bump them they almost all completely explode. I find this very fascinating.

Really? That’s weird, it’s not like they’re actually _losing_ anything when they get bumped. Hell, there’s a guy in Kothe that goes bumping at the ice field there and I’ve _never_ seen anyone explode at him, the most he gets is people keeping an eye out for him and some minor annoyance. I think some of the folks at AMC are even a little fond of the guy!

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**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/157 "2019-10-23T04:39:22Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> someone woke up and decided to shoot at me

Did you actually get ganked in high sec as a newbie?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/158 "2019-10-23T08:35:26Z")

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No, of course not. I was shot in low sec, and enjoyed it so much that I decided to bring the experience back to all my noob friends in high sec.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-go-over-the-details-on-this-10-milllion-isk-permit/180944/159 "2020-01-21T08:35:26Z")

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