# Let's Have Less Waffle And More Reality....Nerfed Procurers

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**Created:** [December 8, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-have-less-waffle-and-more-reality-nerfed-procurers/340847 "2021-12-08T17:34:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-have-less-waffle-and-more-reality-nerfed-procurers/340847/189 "2021-12-16T04:08:48Z")

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> [@Winter Q&A Livestream - December 16](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-q-a-livestream-december-16/341735/49):
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> What are CCPs thoughts about ganking mining barges and the recent EHP doubling of those ships? Is CCP aware that ganking those ships and staying semi ISK positive is not possible anymore? Is CCPs plan to make ganking mining-barges in highsec impossible and if yes, what do they plan to do, to reduce botting abuse of the related mechanics that now can be done in unprecedented safety?

Here’s one such post in their Q&A live stream, about how CCP is trying to make ganking in high sec impossible. You can choose to quibble over specific wording if you want, but they’re out there. I’ve seen a few of them sprinkled in a few threads now.

Mike isn’t spreading misinformation. You either just haven’t seen it, are ignoring it, or don’t recognize it because your biases are fairly well known.

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