# Let's Have Less Waffle And More Reality....Nerfed Procurers **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 8, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-have-less-waffle-and-more-reality-nerfed-procurers/340847 "2021-12-08T17:34:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 30
**Author:** ![Locke\_Deninard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/locke_deninard/32/296226_2.png) [@Locke\_Deninard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Locke_Deninard)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-have-less-waffle-and-more-reality-nerfed-procurers/340847/30 "2021-12-08T22:17:21Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I wonder what your sources are for that. As far as I know, the only way that gankers have responded is by starting to train extra characters. I’ll just leave this here for you: > [@New EHP Balance of the Mining Ships and Outcome](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-ehp-balance-of-the-mining-ships-and-outcome/340234): > > My question to the CSM: CCP is proposing to effectively double the EHP of miners. Are they also aware this will end Highsec miner ganking, and provide absolute safety to miners in Highsec? Has CCP considered the longterm economic ramifications to Highsec mining invulnerability? There is a math behind suicide ganking. A lot of effort on top of the these calculations. Anybody who know the MATH will understand. Does CCP actually intend to make Highsec mining an activity which is exempt from PvP… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lets-have-less-waffle-and-more-reality-nerfed-procurers/340847)._