# Letters to the Carebears of code

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** high-sec, low-sec\
**Created:** [September 3, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611 "2017-09-03T03:24:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/141 "2018-01-08T15:34:20Z")

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-Ship loss  
-sec status loss  
-no insurance claim.on destroyed ship  
-anyone can freely shoot

> no consequence

😂😂😂😂

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/142 "2018-01-08T15:34:51Z")

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Good sir, why is there a “low-sec” tag on this thread?

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/3/f33838ab55a2cea9083dc39c87a31cf46b424334.png)

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/143 "2018-01-08T15:43:26Z")

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> [@StarterrorPrime](#):
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> no one takes me seriously

Nor should they

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**Author:** ![Epcot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/epcot/32/45695_2.png) [@Epcot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Epcot)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/144 "2018-01-08T16:39:15Z")

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So, please read this giant well thought out wall of text that took me all night to write and proofread about how you don’t effect my time?

…

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/145 "2018-01-29T23:52:27Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> -Ship loss
> 
> -sec status loss
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> -no insurance claim.on destroyed ship
> 
> -anyone can freely shoot
> 
> no consequence

- Free Ship Replacement via ǝpoɔ.
- Most are -10 already, so who cares?
- ǝpoɔ pays a flat rate for each ship loss (exceeds loss).
- Most are -10 already, so who cares?

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**Author:** ![Kannibal\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kannibal_kane/32/83992_2.png) [@Kannibal\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kannibal_Kane)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/146 "2018-01-30T05:06:21Z")

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All that text by a nobody, a nobody that cannot fight his way out of a paper bag.

> **[StarterrorPrime | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/90185268/)**
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> StarterrorPrime: 5 ships destroyed and 83 ships lost.

And the there is Fabulous Rod, nothing Fabulous about him, nor does he have a Rod to speak off.

> **[Fabulous Rod | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/92091445/)**
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> Fabulous Rod: 0 ships destroyed and 2 ships lost.

Just another toothless nobody as well that imagines he has more teeth on the forums than in game.

As much as EVE changed I am happy to see how much it has not. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justified_arrogance/32/263131_2.png) [@JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JUSTIFIED_ARROGANCE)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/147 "2018-01-30T06:36:43Z")

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Im bumping this thread with my Mach can somebody go call CODE please…

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/148 "2018-01-30T07:13:00Z")

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You know, if people prepare to acccept and handle/compensate for the consequences, then that does not mean those consequences just vanish.

There was another thread recently where some carebears complained that they can’t just shoot people who try to ‘steal’ their site, because of the absurdly high consequences of CONCORDOKEN, sec status loss, kill rights, etc.

They spoke about the very same game mechanic.

So what is actually the problem here? The game mechanics or people who are to lazy to actually play the game and prepare to mitigate risk and consequences?

I guess it’s just easier to come cry on the forums about it, right?

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/149 "2018-01-30T13:17:27Z")

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I don’t understand why more alphas don’t warp stab out frigs and follow CODE around.

When they blow up something big they drop a major loot piñata on grid. Its not like they are looting it legal, they are using a cloaky hauler that cant get to the loot very fast either. Sure they go flashy too, but the point is there is plenty of time to just take their kill and warp. Sure they will probably kill you a few times, but even 1 time will pay for 10,000 frigates.Also I heavily get the impression they like to get loot at the end of the day, I have had them log right after making them blow up some shiny loot that dropped from a gank.

CODE is a loot piñata, and one that can be easily exploited with a alt Alpha, you need barely any skills to steal, and there is a certain fun griefing griefers.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/150 "2018-01-30T13:20:03Z")

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That is a really neat idea.  
Ramona’s Remoras. (OC, do not steal)

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**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/151 "2018-01-30T21:59:31Z")

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This thread really called in the masses of regular posters. All 9 or so of us.

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**Author:** ![OId\_SouI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oid_soui/32/52041_2.png) [@OId\_SouI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OId_SouI)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/152 "2018-01-30T22:10:26Z")

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Can we stop necroing this POS thread?

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/153 "2018-01-30T22:38:30Z")

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I thought these new forums were going to be less restrictive…

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/154 "2018-01-31T00:28:09Z")

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Yeah… nope

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/155 "2018-01-31T01:50:55Z")

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Less restrictive, not unrestricted.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/156 "2018-01-31T05:17:21Z")

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Not less either. Same old ccp.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/157 "2018-01-31T12:35:58Z")

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They killed a lot of the rules, but left the one-size-fits-all trolling rule, so it is pretty much still the same.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Marshmellow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_marshmellow/32/35081_2.png) [@Major\_Marshmellow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Marshmellow)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/158 "2018-02-01T12:16:31Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> They killed a lot of the rules, but left the one-size-fits-all trolling rule, so it is pretty much still the same.

I put a meme that had the “F” bomb in it and it was promptly removed.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/159 "2018-02-01T21:17:42Z")

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> [@Major\_Marshmellow](#):
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> > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> > They killed a lot of the rules, but left the one-size-fits-all trolling rule, so it is pretty much still the same.
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> I put a meme that had the “F” bomb in it and it was promptly removed.

And why are you surprised at that?

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**Author:** ![Devon\_Stone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/devon_stone/32/385010_2.png) [@Devon\_Stone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Devon_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/letters-to-the-carebears-of-code/21611/160 "2018-02-03T14:13:28Z")

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Interceptor fleets swarming through goon space, disrupt their carebearing and massive tears will flow.

Do something about it instead of whining.

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