# Lies around CSM and what is it for? **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [August 13, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629 "2025-08-13T14:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pugnacious\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pugnacious_rex/32/470499_2.png) [@Pugnacious\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pugnacious_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/21 "2025-08-13T23:01:12Z")
They don’t make sense because it is simply elindel sperging about drake doing and saying stuff that never happened. Also claiming that owning 2 pcs is for some reason not allowed lol ---
**Author:** ![Ceema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ceema/32/381241_2.png) [@Ceema](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ceema)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/22 "2025-08-13T23:15:32Z")
Good afternoon, My name is Ceema, and I am the Executive Vice President of Skee Ball and Token Based redemption games for the Brisc Rubal Home for Hot Unwed Mothers. In addition, I’m the most popular person in EVE Online in the history of MMO’s since World of Warcraft was the first MMO ever to launch commercially ever. Finally, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. These three things make me uniquely qualified to say this, and I quote Goonswarms Exec Merkelchen, the #1 EVE Online, Wii Bowling, and Old Man Paints Warhammer 40K pictures while yelling about toilet lizards at Disneyworld caused by the ghost of Walt Disney (who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day) Twitch Streamer here but, and again Merkelchen’s words, not mine but endorsed by me and the entirety of New Eden as I type them: “Shut up idiot”. Thank you for your time and post. The world will never recover the time nor bandwidth you have cost all of us. Also Drake is awesome, how dare you. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/23 "2025-08-13T23:21:56Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/3/4/a342627c423f9e0af9f68cbf4e2ffff457098f3e.png) he is very good at hiding what I expose behind a ton of spam, pouring dirt on me and my corp members - and you call yourself CSM - i don’t need CSM like that ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/24 "2025-08-13T23:43:47Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > i don’t need CSM like that No one is forcing you to vote for them. I personally don’t like YP2, but you don’t see me trying to claim he’s out to get anyone. Others did vote for them though, and they had the subject matter expertise that CCP is looking for. Maybe save any dirt smearing for the next CSM election. If you do have any legitimate concerns, bring them up with CCP, as they are the ones that can actually do something and have the final say in things. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/25 "2025-08-14T00:07:18Z")
CSM for players is kinda represents CCP - kinda connection with players, explain me how he can decide who is who, who is allowed to be in roundtable - who is not, why he name me Elindel ? what for this lie, were di he get this ??? saying so much dirt on me and my corp wile he represent CCP - it is insane for me ---
**Author:** ![Kommissar\_Ciaphas\_Cain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kommissar_ciaphas_cain/32/470503_2.png) [@Kommissar\_Ciaphas\_Cain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kommissar_Ciaphas_Cain)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/26 "2025-08-14T00:10:26Z")
so what is the tldr? ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/27 "2025-08-14T00:18:38Z")
simply Drake Iddon do what he want to do he insults the players as much as he wants and believes that he is in charge here and if he wants to spit on you, he will take you to a round table to communicate with the CCP, he will not want to take you. ---
**Author:** ![Kommissar\_Ciaphas\_Cain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kommissar_ciaphas_cain/32/470503_2.png) [@Kommissar\_Ciaphas\_Cain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kommissar_Ciaphas_Cain)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/28 "2025-08-14T00:19:10Z")
Clearly the Emperor did not protect you. ---
**Author:** ![Coltitus\_Mando](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coltitus_mando/32/470504_2.png) [@Coltitus\_Mando](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coltitus_Mando)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/29 "2025-08-14T00:23:42Z")
I love a good schizo post ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/30 "2025-08-14T01:22:22Z")
Keep up the good work, Drake! ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/31 "2025-08-14T01:28:10Z")
yeah keep lie about players do what ever you wana do with feedback collect it only from your frinds and create your own pcovhen, why not ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/32 "2025-08-14T01:39:07Z")
Run for CSM yourself then? Its not hard to get yourself on the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/33 "2025-08-14T01:46:18Z")
nah, all i wont to be clear and understand why CSM telling to players with who to play and who is cheater rmt, who he is to say this ? yes he is not CCP worker - but he is nearby them - and people listen to him, if he sayd to someone to not cooperate with someone cos he is a cheaterrmt - players listen to him cos he is CSM. This is exceeding one’s authority, interfering in the game through one’s influence on the players. AND THIS IS WRONG ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/34 "2025-08-14T02:22:21Z")
CCP has the final say in who is banned for cheating or not. All Drake is doing is showing people how to submit reports, CCP do their own investigations. If you have evidence to the contrary, talk to CCP about it (or lawyer up). All you are doing right now is just making people think you are guilty of what you claim you didn’t do. ---
**Author:** ![Pila\_Turden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pila_turden/32/373501_2.png) [@Pila\_Turden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pila_Turden)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/35 "2025-08-14T03:03:59Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > were did you get information that i am Elindel ? Well, it’s very difficult to be sure, but both Elindel and Kronos Solaris have spent most of the last 15 years in the same corps / related corps, all of which end up pointing back to ISEEU / Great Bear (KOB4EG, Nekogami Band, etc). Interestingly, you can start to see some other alts floating around there - Birzulll, Antratsit, a few others. Looking at the other members of either current corp that aren’t multibox clones - few an far between that they are - and there’s no where near as close a match. So yeah, I’d be quite happy looking at that lot and saying ‘this toon is an alt of that toon’, regardless of whether someone else confirms it. Handily, someone has, too - so that just clears it all up nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/36 "2025-08-14T10:09:35Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > ganking etc Zero sympathy here. If you have proof, take it to CCP and Team Security ( if it still exists ). ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/37 "2025-08-14T10:11:46Z")
> [@Milz0r](#): > > Hrmmm nothing wrong with 2 pcs mate - I needed it to fight your RMT blob. There is if it’s to circumvent any rules, not saying that’s your reason, but just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/38 "2025-08-14T10:25:49Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > CSM for players is kinda represents CCP - kinda connection with players, explain me how he can decide who is who, who is allowed to be in roundtable It seems to me, if I’m understanding this correctly. That he made the roundtable himself and invited other alliances to join, until he found out certain players were cheating and had bans. Then he threw them off the roundtable that he himself set up, is that right? Can’t fault him, he’s done nothing wrong. Absolutely the only thing wrong, and he can work on this as a member of the CSM, is that cheaters manage to get back into the game. **Any cheating in any way that’s proven should result in a lifetime ban. No exceptions.** ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/39 "2025-08-14T16:05:29Z")
Dude he has info that i am cheater from players that collect on me mass petitions to get me out from region and at the moment all of them are banned, as i said before telling this now - they did this cos they couldn’t do rmt in region without fighting my corp and he helped them before and help them now - he is representer of CCP and he damage my reputation by lie that i am banned/cheater etc This is what i don’t like in him - he use CSM status and hurt by this to My alliance that for 2 last years are TOP of the region and at least last year we are in top 30 by 90 day ranking killboard in all eve univers ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/40 "2025-08-14T16:08:02Z")
IF he help ppl to do reports how is that possible he didn’t report me for 2 years ??? He forgot how to do this ? Or he can not say to CCP “Hey my friend that atm banned sayd he is a rmt/cheater - bann him, his action in region hurt to ppl earn dollars” isn’t it insane ??? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629.md?page=3)