# Lies around CSM and what is it for? **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [August 13, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629 "2025-08-13T14:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aetane\_Reud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetane_reud/32/470587_2.png) [@Aetane\_Reud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetane_Reud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/41 "2025-08-14T16:44:19Z")
If he had proof, he wouldn’t be crying on here would he? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/42 "2025-08-14T16:48:38Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > Dude he has info that i am cheater from players that collect on me mass petitions If you aren’t cheating, the logs will certainly show it. If one has access to the serverlogs that record basically _every_ action your clients sends to the server, it is pretty easy to tell if someone is using a bot, does input broadcasting or is a real human being. So, if you indeed get banned, they won’t do so without having clear evidence. And if you don’t cheat, what are you afraid of? Even a 1.000 petitions would not result in a ban, if the CCP investigation shows that you are clear. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/43 "2025-08-14T18:37:24Z")
Afraid ? i don’t - thats the point, why he slandering my name and my corporation using CSM status, and making threatening recommendations to other players not to play with me. ---
**Author:** ![Gabriell\_Bemenacth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gabriell_bemenacth/32/470594_2.png) [@Gabriell\_Bemenacth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gabriell_Bemenacth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/44 "2025-08-14T19:32:40Z")
Your group was uninvited from the discord with ccp after I helped give you a chance at being constructive additions. Instead they turned it into a flaming hot ■■■■ show within 24 hours by ranting and raving about your incoherent conspiracy theories. Drake doesnt slander you on the round table. You slander your own name and corp by your actions, the way you talk, the way you feed ingame (youre not just top killers of pochven…), multiple members being banned and ■■■■■■■■ post like this. Cry me a river Kronos. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/45 "2025-08-14T20:14:13Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/1/c51864a3b136fe51fabbb2ba13d042bf2b036d30.png) This you see if you will go to Zkillboard on first page i understand this is for a week Yes don’t have a lot of time to fly now, i am not interested to be in my chars in TOP, to me as for CEO enough that my corp have results and i like it. Even here if you will see his answer you will see that he **pours dirt on me without proof** … But who cares - He is CSM and most pilots believe only because he is CSM os THIS IS WRONG if he is CSM he should sit quiet with his OWN opinion and personal hate do what should do CSM without any dirty talks on official resources at least - i don’t care what you ALL do in roundtable - sit and cry there wile me and my corp have FUN in region. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/46 "2025-08-14T20:51:28Z")
Ah okay, then I probably got you wrong. I thought your Account(s) have been banned because of mass-petitions. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/47 "2025-08-14T21:01:17Z")
Your alliance is allowed on his roundtable discord, your alliance is the one refusing to join. He can allow who he wants in his discord. As you’ve said before, you have another CSM you can talk to as well in Seddow. ---
**Author:** ![Gabriell\_Bemenacth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gabriell_bemenacth/32/470594_2.png) [@Gabriell\_Bemenacth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gabriell_Bemenacth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/48 "2025-08-14T21:10:02Z")
yeh sounds like I remember getting kicked wrong, but leaving because you want previous banned directors in isnt much better. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/49 "2025-08-14T21:49:08Z")
check again his answer and you will see that we were kicked from there 1 person who was allowed didn’t wana go cos his english not good enough for live conversations. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/50 "2025-08-14T21:51:27Z")
That was not his stated answer, he didn’t join because certain people were not allowed. You can always have someone else who can speak English try to represent your alliance. You have plenty of members. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/51 "2025-08-14T21:52:38Z")
yes i was thanks god i had investigation and 2 years i fly without any problems except Drake Iddon feel bad and he told me in past that it was CCP fail with investigation - cos he better know ---
**Author:** ![Pugnacious\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pugnacious_rex/32/470499_2.png) [@Pugnacious\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pugnacious_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/52 "2025-08-14T23:49:13Z")
This really is the thread that keeps on giving, what makes you think the other players of the region are rmting? Because they fought you daily in AU/CNTZ for months? Because you fled that timezone after Melnikov got banned again? And If so how is any of this Drake’s fault? I think your just upset Elindel that not everything is going your way unfortunately. All Drake has done is simply assisted people with the report process because its poorly laid out for the players to do… Its not a personal issue from him, if you had something to report I’m sure he would do the same. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/53 "2025-08-15T00:53:24Z")
This thread is not about his hobby. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/54 "2025-08-15T01:01:38Z")
> [@ISEEU\_CEO](#): > > rmt Do you mean plex? ---
**Author:** ![Pugnacious\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pugnacious_rex/32/470499_2.png) [@Pugnacious\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pugnacious_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/55 "2025-08-15T01:44:21Z")
What exactly do you mean his hobby? ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/56 "2025-08-15T02:25:12Z")
Hobby to help ppl with reports (collecting logs) ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/57 "2025-08-15T02:59:54Z")
You do know that helping someone submit a report doesn’t mean you see what they submit right? People help just to help others, CSM or not. CCP has that data, yes, but they should have that data. ---
**Author:** ![Proxay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/proxay/32/434973_2.png) [@Proxay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Proxay)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/58 "2025-08-15T06:49:28Z")
It can’t hurt that so many of your kills are your own ships, that you were on via smartbombs etc. I mean, sure, point at zkb if you want. But carrying on about it as if it has any bearing on why banned players can’t join RoundTable is kinda funny. BTW – Of course, just asking a silly question: why hasn’t Elindel logged in on main or 15-20 alts, since 22-SEP-2022? It’s clear via Zkill, that the characters Kronos Solaris & Elindel both started playing EVE around mid-2008. So after 14 years together, one just stops playing suddenly in 2022 while ‘at the top of his game’. What an odd occurrence. I wonder if it had anything to do with all the accusations of RMT/Cheating. Just thinking out loud here of course. ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/59 "2025-08-15T10:22:43Z")
Proxya - first of all ask your friend what for he was banned (i am sure he can check) , wile he check i’ll tell you it was mass petitions, all lies started from him exactly in roundtable were Madnis with Elizabeth Wong started it. IF you like the way that people that had banned by mass petitions shouldn’t be in roundtable - then you are also part of players that use it as a weapon against players that they can’t win in space. Eve is a game were players play for a years and then can take a pause for a years - all your info about me and Elindel come from banned players for RMT - or this is not true ? All of you like idea (excuse) that you loose in space cos cheats and rmt. First was mass petitions, after investigation - started lie about bann evading. Now one of our directors is banned due crazy patch : “After seeing the impacts of both short and long decloaking pulses, we are happier with the results of the former. These quick pulses make Pochven CCTV (cloaked alts used to monitor player movements) much more involved and overall seems to be healthy for the region.” System banned him automatically when it was first time added last year - now after patch **Patch Notes for 2025-06-24.1** - it is a second one and system did it permaban cos it was a second (but i am sure there was no reasond for both of bans) BUT all this LIE about our corporation created this illusion that we are RMT / cheaters - so those durty talks about us - hurt us. If he is so cool - why he didn’t ask about investigation ? We want investigation to be done, all he did saying on official discord that we had wave of bans in our corp - but as i know we didn’t lost any multiboxer from our corporation !!! Except our Director Ihken Orti ---
**Author:** ![ISEEU\_CEO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iseeu_ceo/32/470429_2.png) [@ISEEU\_CEO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISEEU_CEO)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629/60 "2025-08-15T11:02:12Z")
BTW - here some feedback about pochven - NPC in observatorys doesn’t tackle (it worked in past), Zernitra broken - doesn’t shoot new players without standings (it worked in past) payout is also broken [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lies-around-csm-and-what-is-it-for/495629.md?page=4)