# \[Lifeblood\] Refineries, Moon Drills and the Extraction Process

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385>\
**Category:** Test Server Feedback\
**Tags:** lifeblood, singularity\
**Created:** [August 28, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385 "2017-08-28T17:41:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dublone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dublone/32/47119_2.png) [@Dublone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dublone)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/62 "2017-09-03T08:57:51Z")

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ah thx

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**Author:** ![Phthonos\_Nemesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phthonos_nemesis/32/21470_2.png) [@Phthonos\_Nemesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phthonos_Nemesis)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/63 "2017-09-03T12:16:15Z")

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I assume this is known, but I didn’t see any reports.

I scheduled the extraction process, then hit the fire button and got the following error:

**Message: 'ExtractionNotAvailableForFracture’**  
**Args: None**

Also, a little more feedback on the scheduler would be helpful. Only after I hit Submit did I find out I wouldn’t have a chunk for a week.

Before anyone says “EVE has sound?”, I’ll mention I like the environmental sounds around the Athanor. Industrial and mysterious.

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**Author:** ![Phthonos\_Nemesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phthonos_nemesis/32/21470_2.png) [@Phthonos\_Nemesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phthonos_Nemesis)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/64 "2017-09-03T12:22:35Z")

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Another minor issue. When I dock in the Athanor, the blue chevrons are labelled “Enter Ship Hangar”, which should be “View Outside Structure”. Once I click on it, the labeling is correct whether I’m in the hangar or viewing outside.

The behavior reverts if I “Take Control”. i.e. after returning from “Take Control”, the label is “Enter Ship Hangar”, even though I’m already in ship hangar.

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**Author:** ![Z1gy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z1gy/32/67772_2.png) [@Z1gy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Z1gy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/65 "2017-09-06T11:34:04Z")

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did my moon extraction 2 days ago and 0500hrs today it should be there but i dont see any moon belt around my refinery nor when i pressed the fire button nothing happens

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**Author:** ![Z1gy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z1gy/32/67772_2.png) [@Z1gy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Z1gy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/66 "2017-09-06T12:14:42Z")

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ok ignore the above post as i need to add the moon roids to the overview

can i have a suggestion for the moon roid to be added automatically to the eve mining overview setting?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/67 "2017-09-06T12:21:46Z")

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I believe they have been added to the default mining overview setting. Any custom overviews will have to be manually updated

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**Author:** ![Z1gy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z1gy/32/67772_2.png) [@Z1gy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Z1gy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/68 "2017-09-06T12:44:00Z")

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will rorqual be given an ability to compress the moon ore?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/69 "2017-09-06T13:09:35Z")

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From one of the other threads.

> **[\[Lifeblood\] Moon Mining Revamp - Main Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-moon-mining-revamp-main-thread/20384/72?u=ccp_lebowski)**
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> There’s no plans currently to allow compression of these ores.

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**Author:** ![Cameron\_Lytle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cameron_lytle/32/218630_2.png) [@Cameron\_Lytle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cameron_Lytle)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/70 "2017-09-06T13:10:42Z")

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o7 hi ccp

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**Author:** ![Nalles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalles/32/22241_2.png) [@Nalles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalles)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/71 "2017-09-06T13:15:54Z")

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Will the position of the moon-belt be determined by the position of the RC or does it relate to the beacon?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/72 "2017-09-06T13:16:40Z")

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Its determined by the position of the Refinery.

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**Author:** ![Nalles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalles/32/22241_2.png) [@Nalles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalles)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/73 "2017-09-06T13:18:01Z")

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> [@CCP\_Lebowski](#):
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> Its determined by the position of the Refinery.

So it will always be 150km from the RC?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/74 "2017-09-06T13:19:58Z")

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These numbers are subject to change but that’s broadly correct. Somewhere outside of tether range but inside the refineries lock range.

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**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/77 "2017-09-06T19:45:34Z")

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Have you tried the solution above: Adding moon asteroids to your overview?

Presumably the RC doesn’t allow you to pull another chunk while you have (invisible) asteroids waiting to be harvested.

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**Author:** ![Bliksem\_Donner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bliksem_donner/32/21202_2.png) [@Bliksem\_Donner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bliksem_Donner)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/78 "2017-09-06T20:04:04Z")

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tnx they were in overview…mining…but nothing showed on survey scanner.  
But i cant warp to a rock its 250km away hmm

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**Author:** ![Vivianne\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vivianne_athonille/32/512723_2.png) [@Vivianne\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vivianne_Athonille)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/79 "2017-09-06T20:13:33Z")

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Save the rock as a location, then warp to that.

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**Author:** ![Bliksem\_Donner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bliksem_donner/32/21202_2.png) [@Bliksem\_Donner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bliksem_Donner)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/80 "2017-09-06T20:32:11Z")

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So which mining crystals to use then.

oh ok not seeded yet 😕

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Auger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jack_auger/32/286881_2.png) [@Jack\_Auger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jack_Auger)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/81 "2017-09-07T01:21:02Z")

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Where are the refining rigs that were to be unsloted located? I see rigs were removed but can’t seem to locate them in inventory.

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**Author:** ![Basil\_Vulpine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/basil_vulpine/32/19190_2.png) [@Basil\_Vulpine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Basil_Vulpine)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/82 "2017-09-07T10:52:31Z")

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If it’s like other refunds of stuff I’ve had it’ll be the personal hangar of the CEO of the corp that has the structure.

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**Author:** ![Tribal\_Trogdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tribal_trogdor/32/215753_2.png) [@Tribal\_Trogdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tribal_Trogdor)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lifeblood-refineries-moon-drills-and-the-extraction-process/20385/83 "2017-09-07T19:09:21Z")

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Have you thought about how the warp scrambler on the refineries will come into play with this? Doing the mining part during when the structure is vulnerable and able to use the scram is going to be pretty terrible for people looking to disrupt the mining. Even if you bring enough to be able to tank it, its a major pain in the ass to be able burn 100+km away after you’re webbed/scrammed by a citadel. Other than coming prepared to rf the thing everytime you want to do this, there’s very little counterplay to this.

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