# Limit the amount of FOBs in highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [April 27, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351 "2019-04-27T02:34:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/1 "2019-04-27T02:34:07Z")
Pirate sotiyos are limited to 2 being active in New Eden at any given time and due to those usually dropping in nullsec, I suggest to limit the amount of FOBs in highsec to 2 at any given time also. EVE is about player interaction and became a “what can the server do to make everyone miserable”. The amount of active FOBs in highsec is ludacris. If you must keep this nuisance, limit the amount to one Blobb Raider and one Blobb Guristas at any given time like those sotiyos. And while you are at it, increase the reward payout to 400 million for 1-20 people and remove the drone aggression for those blobbs. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/2 "2019-04-27T06:46:38Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > increase the reward This is all they actually need to do to solve the entire issue. No one kills them because the reward isn’t worth the risk. Change that and they will all get mopped up by someone. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/3 "2019-04-27T07:48:55Z")
FOBs were designed for group content. Everyone gets paid the same amount. For 1 or 2 people the rewards are meager but a fleet with 15 or 20 people is well compensated for their time and risk. Larger highsec corps should easily be able to organize that kind of fleet. Any increase in the reward should be material - loot & salvage. We don’t need to open the ISK faucets any wider than they already are. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/4 "2019-04-27T08:08:42Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > No one kills them because the reward isn’t worth the risk > [@Do\_Little](#): > > FOBs were designed for group content. That’s why I am proposing this. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/5 "2019-04-27T08:32:03Z")
> [@PVE section need one more catergory](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-section-need-one-more-catergory/155350/2): > > I proposed “fixing” FOBs by spawning a number of anoms and sigs along with it in order to deplete its defenders, to the point its doable by bunch of disorganized locals. Or even its being exposed to removal by CONCORD. > > Combat anoms to reduce defenders numbers and stop them from respawning indefinitely. > > Data sites to expose its pocation to turn it to a beacon in local, to stop its combat mods from functioning. > > One of the features with FOBs and especially Sotiyos is them being hidden. In good days of olde one had to run a sysyem wide scan to find if there are any signatures. That could be a way not to expose their presence too early, their signatures could be hidden and needed to be discovered first. > > Sotiyos are fine afaik, but FOBs lack incentive to run them, ie reward is ship. > [@PVE section need one more catergory](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-section-need-one-more-catergory/155350/3): > > Instead of combat sites I would use missions. You can do lots of cool things with them like rescuing civilians, helping navy ships to defend a structure from the pirates, do reconnaissance on the FOB and so on. All that can be used to wear down the capabilities of the FOB and create lots of good PVE with a meaningful goal. > [@PVE section need one more catergory](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-section-need-one-more-catergory/155350/4): > > Yeah, something like this would also be awesome. > > Or Agency Event-like. Or System limited Incursion-like. With a progress bar of players participation. Or a progress bar for pirates crippling system infrastructure, like lowering effective security status temporarily, if not taken care of in time. > > **Meaningful** is the key word, in every activity actually. Can’t stress this enough. @CCP\_Ghost presentation in Evesterdam this year was quite inspiring in that meaningfulness is something they are now at least taking into account, sort of. Posted in your other topic, thought you proposed to add another PVE section to Activity Tracker or something, didn’t realize it was in Forum feedback & requests. Limiting number of FOBs to only 2 in all of highsec is like deleting them altogether. They had to add them to Agency window because was stupid waste of Fleet effort to search for them. They need to make it meaningful to participate in killing pirate miners, patrols, guards. Make rewards rewarding. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/6 "2019-04-27T09:52:03Z")
That would be cool and all but once you have been annihilated by 893573795692756278956782657892652789562765278956428354 BloBB Raiders with 600% tidi in the entire region because someone made a booboo in the spawn calculations, you stop seeing it for what it is - yet another way to keep people from logging on. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/7 "2019-04-27T09:58:42Z")
Look I’m not against tough pve but FOB are just annoying the response fleets are not worth fighting and neither is the FoB ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/8 "2019-04-27T10:05:32Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > Posted in your other topic, thought you proposed to add another PVE section to Activity Tracker or something, didn’t realize it was in Forum feedback & requests. That’s why I posted in the forum request section. I thought they deserve their own category. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/9 "2019-04-27T10:25:43Z")
Where the issue, it takes 40min to kill one solo. This can hardly be qualified as issue. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/10 "2019-04-27T11:18:08Z")
Whine whine whine. If you don’t like them, group up with the other whiners and shoot them down. Do we really need a CSM who only whines instead of actually doing something about it himself? Hell, we need MORE of them not less! Can you not at least TRY to not suck be better? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/11 "2019-04-27T11:43:32Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > it takes 40min to kill one solo You mean it used to. I was researching them on SiSi and killed 6 of them in a row, just to get this maneuver down and not get killed on my way. Then I go buy the ship and the mods and thought muhahaha ima wreck you now - but the Blobb Raiders had a different idea and killed all my drones instead - in your face e2 😛 At least I wasn’t killed by 700 trillion BloBB Raiders, they kinda felt stupid chasing after me instead. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/12 "2019-04-27T13:05:24Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > That would be cool and all but once you have been annihilated by 893573795692756278956782657892652789562765278956428354 BloBB Raiders with 600% tidi in the entire region because someone made a booboo in the spawn calculations, you stop seeing it for what it is - yet another way to keep people from logging on. You didnt read what I proposed, did you? FOB as it is now is group content. You didnt manage to solo what others do in spider tanked Leshak-Nestor gangs and now you want it gone? Imposing your vision instead of listening to others ideas, instead of arguing for and against. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/13 "2019-04-27T13:09:02Z")
I managed to solo 6 Blobb Raider and BloBB Guristas FOBs by myself just fine, just on the live server the NPCs do very different things. > [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > and now you want it gone? I never wanted it to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/14 "2019-04-27T13:18:17Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > I never wanted it to begin with. Should CCP ask if you would like some new feature before adding it to TQ? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/15 "2019-04-27T13:20:14Z")
If I get elected, they just might. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/16 "2019-04-27T13:36:24Z")
Didn’t think FOB’s spawned on SISI? They were disabled to stop people figuring them out. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/17 "2019-04-27T13:36:32Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > If I get elected, they just might. Noori, I dont think CSM works this way. CCP will show you and will ask your opinion, but you dont get to decide if it going to TQ or not. There was a CSM when FOBs were added, I dont think they were too fond of them either, we still got them 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/18 "2019-04-27T14:22:19Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Then I go buy the ship and the mods and thought muhahaha ima wreck you now - but the Blobb Raiders had a different idea and killed all my drones instead - in your face e2 Hahaha, I know what you did wrong and what small but important piece you missed. They still can be soloed easily (check my KB). ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/19 "2019-04-27T15:42:07Z")
elitatwo definitely isn’t Noori and, seriously, that’s quite insulting to her. Elitatwo has been a really good forum member for ages and she might be half a carebear, but this is undeserving. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351/20 "2019-04-27T15:44:02Z")
Anyhow, this is the (rest of the) Orca I’ve warped to the FOB because i’m completely out of my mind! _(it’s a game, i don’t cry about losses)_ ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/1/11d873145cc5a6ae8a8022f187d9c15a6c6a7c1c.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/7/97d67ab7a640aa15fb6e467c1f888930b5422186.jpeg) Pedro came to save me, lost several ships in the process! The adrenaline was amazing, the panic HILARIOUS! 😃 We don’t need less FOBs, we need less cowards! [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/limit-the-amount-of-fobs-in-highsec/155351.md?page=2)