# Listing the Alts of the ORCA Hypernet Owner Venetian Macau - abusing system

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 8, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283 "2021-07-08T20:49:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/41 "2021-07-10T12:22:43Z")

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Today 10/jul/2021 Bots passing downtime 🙂

I can confirm they are online near 23/24 hours, sending messages each 80 sec aprox. As you can see i am now more in rens than other areas. (mothballing accounts)

Will be updated later.

- eystur - eilego taron - created today
- Jita - Talandan Ten Otsolen - created today
- perimeter - Hyykiala Tokila - created today
- Amarr - Bakpom Hashur - created today

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/42 "2021-07-11T09:06:07Z")

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I don’t think this kind of things are even worth reporting. This is clearly something CCP has to already be aware of and yet they do nothing about…

It’s as if they thought making every other player have to block all those chars one by one each and every day is OK… As if we didn’t have anything better to do and we simply had to get used to that kind of crap…

I look at these things as reasons to simply stop playing the game altogether, which I’ll eventually do when I get fed up enough. If they don’t care, why should I and waste even more time trying to solve a problem they clearly don’t care about?

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/43 "2021-07-11T09:35:36Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> It’s as if they thought making every other player have to block all those chars one by one each and every day is OK

They also think that it is perfectly fine that you can spam hundreds of messages within a few seconds and consider this a major improvement of the chat system over the old chat system.

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**Author:** ![Luwc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luwc/32/281730_2.png) [@Luwc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luwc)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/44 "2021-07-11T09:37:31Z")

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It hints at the greater issue though that is alpha clones.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/45 "2021-07-11T09:42:11Z")

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> [@Rilin\_Demoney](#):
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> Why would anyone bother with it?

Maybe you did not notice yet, but most people on this planet are complete morons.

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**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/46 "2021-07-11T12:47:05Z")

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11 /jul/ 2021

- eystur - Arnstalok Aumer - created today
- perimeter - isitei aitai naari - created today
- jita - ezzoranta akiga - created today

WIll be updated when i see more, each put a message in local in intervals of 80 sec, normally between downtime to next downtime

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/47 "2021-07-11T13:29:29Z")

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I just report them as bots. I don’t see someone sitting there and making all these accounts manually and then seeding them all into systems they weren’t born in.

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/48 "2021-07-11T13:34:52Z")

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I use local a lot for everything from helping new people and general communication to watching for enemies.  
I’m not sure if you are kidding or not, but local is a tool and spam makes it a pain in the ass to use.

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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/49 "2021-07-11T14:22:13Z")

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Seeing as market spam bots predate alpha clones, I’m going with No.

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**Author:** ![Zmeitza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zmeitza/32/328480_2.png) [@Zmeitza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zmeitza)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/50 "2021-07-12T08:07:31Z")

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![eb84f585441ce94fa4e0cb7cddb4a0e5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/e/86e8c871c44b5027e785a1c57b5ef7ac662391c8.png)

Works as intended I guess

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**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/51 "2021-07-12T17:40:17Z")

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today 12 / 7 / 2021

Perimeter - Nuumora Ahuri Kautsuo  
Jita - Savela Ikkas Okaski

same, created today 80 sec intervals

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/52 "2021-07-12T19:40:03Z")

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Nobody cares

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/53 "2021-07-12T19:42:16Z")

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You cared enough to reply though.

😛 😈 🍿

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**Author:** ![Inactive\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inactive_seller/32/424362_2.png) [@Inactive\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inactive_Seller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/54 "2021-07-13T12:29:39Z")

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13 / Jul / 2021

Eystur - Urubrold Oldil Gengod - created today  
jita - taaja uitoh - created today  
perimetr - konotora isayeki

As always, characters created daily, promoting 23/24 hours each 80 seconds aprox an hypernet offer created for the same character

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/55 "2021-07-13T13:52:59Z")

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Cool, but, i’m stiull not sure what you think posting here is going to achieve exactly, if you want CCP to actually look at it you need to send in a support ticket, but even then they would only ban the alts which he would recreate daily anyway, unless his main actually breaks a rule it won’t be touched

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Bahamut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_bahamut/32/411846_2.png) [@ISD\_Bahamut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Bahamut)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/56 "2021-07-13T20:08:10Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Bahamut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_bahamut/32/411846_2.png) [@ISD\_Bahamut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Bahamut)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/listing-the-alts-of-the-orca-hypernet-owner-venetian-macau-abusing-system/319283/57 "2021-07-13T20:10:33Z")

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Ok, I think we are at a point to close this thread - if you suspect foul play than as already pointed out, please raise a support ticket so this can be investigate.

ISD Bahamut

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