# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2768 "2019-08-28T16:36:15Z")
> [@Xucca](#): > > I mean, didn’t CCP’s highest available authorities said BOTS ADAPTED? I heard it, everyone knows it. They didn’t say anything about how they adapted. Maybe 90% of them moved to highsec doing activities that 1) don’t inject new isk into the economy 2) don’t generate taxes for alliances as a by-product of their cheating and 3) don’t inflate ADMs as a by-product of their cheating. If that’s the case I’d say it’s a big step forward, but only CCP knows. ---
**Author:** ![Rhivre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhivre/32/358488_2.png) [@Rhivre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhivre)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2769 "2019-08-28T16:50:56Z")
If so, we should see mining and ratting in Highsec explode? ---
**Author:** ![Nuke\_em](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuke_em/32/402279_2.png) [@Nuke\_em](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuke_em)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2771 "2019-08-28T20:40:16Z")
> [@ilter\_utku](#): > > Adapt or die argument sounds stupid to me because whenever you adapt something CCP screws it with a magic touch. If you have been playing the game for a long time you must not ask for examples because you must have seen them. In my opinion it is really stupid to give people a tool and cripple it when you see they are using it really effectively to achieve a certain goal. I changed the way I make isk for so many times and now i am tired of it. I just want to make isk the way I mastered and fund my pve/pvp activities. But I am really tired and I do not want to adapt anymore since I know I will have to adapt again in the near future again and they will change it again. I am not a botter I have only two characters and I tried mission running, exploration, belt ratting (before belts were screwed), combat sites and some other. I even went to enemy space and run relic sites and combat sites there. They changed ships (power grid, slots, etc etc), they changed drones, they changed weapons, they chaged drop rates and lowered the income and so on. People start using some certain ships for pvp and they just take it away from them (they nerf it). And finally BO. I do not care what everyone else is thinking and I do not have to persuade anyone but this BO thing was the final blow to my game style and I am really tired. And almost none of my ingame friends log on anymore. Corp channel is empty, some other player channels I join are empty, local is boring I am not playing this game to struggle with new problems. I want to learn it, develop a play style and stick to it till I am bored or find something better fun to do. But this game is now a very unstable universe (some call it chaos) . I mean imagine you wake up one morning and somebody says we are increasing gravity beacuse people are runnig too fast, then “oh you can see too well with two eyes and we are taking one of them”. Luckily real everyday life is not like EVE and it is almost stable and I like this feeling. > > And those who keep telling others to adapt or die, quit and find other games; who claims to be elite players, etc. I do not have the time and energy to discuss with you. But think about this. Imagine they added a mechanism to anomalies and mining sites so that you cannot lock anything for 30 secs after you landed on the grid. Would you adapt it or cry here on the forums and yell what a stupid thing this is. > > This is how I feel and any stupids comments, I do not give a ■■■■. So do not waste your time typing and answer and showing everyone how better you are than me. Because I will probably not be reading the forums anymore (this has been only EVE related activity recently). > > EVE was a really good game before that SP candies, skill injectors, aurum, godlike drifters and BO. My sentiments exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2772 "2019-08-28T21:23:26Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > but **CCP** clearly feels it’s a place to go and take batting practice against gently-lobbed softballs. You mean like presidential interviews where the interviewer has a list of questions they “can” ask and other topics are off the table? CCP Rise’s TiS sounded so scripted, I nearly felt sorry for those posing the questions. And I always thought TiS was a safe place for players to get accurate information (from player perception) , not for CCP to spin their fiction. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2773 "2019-08-28T23:08:56Z")
and that is why the TiS guys need to get shut down. Someone needs to buy TiS and make it into a real entity and not a “kiss my behind” entity. As I wrote before, TiS-CCP equals to Fox News -Trump. They blow smoke up each other behind ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2774 "2019-08-28T23:10:14Z")
Dont feel sorry for the TiS guys. They are probably getting something in exchange for their own stupidity ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2775 "2019-08-28T23:17:01Z")
1:03:10 War is coming. ![ce0](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/a/aa0077062fb2254b529df3d4c68ecf6471c8285f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2776 "2019-08-28T23:20:58Z")
The funny thing about TiS is that looking at their staff, it is basically a bunch of Goons. Between Carneros, Dirk and MacCloud, that whole crew out there is a goons crew… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2777 "2019-08-29T00:13:18Z")
Matterall (NCdot) owns and runs it, and he would be _extremely_ offended to hear you say that. > [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > CCP Rise’s TiS sounded so scripted, I nearly felt sorry for those posing the questions. That wasn’t scripted. Matterall does go in after and clean up the audio quality (they use two different recordings to make sure there’s no lost audio due to latency, etc), and do a little post-production work, but it’s not scripted, and he doesn’t cut out content. Don’t get me wrong here, I know every one of those guys, and they’re not trying to suck up to anyone. But they’ve got a particular style, and CCP clearly thinks that style will let them say whatever they like. It’s not an easy balance to strike, either. If you’re too aggressive, too harsh, you won’t get people coming back. When I interviewed Delegate Zero for INN, I certainly wasn’t looking to ‘nail’ him on anything… but DZ’s doing story. He’s got stuff he really loves to talk about, and he’s not at all hesitant to admit that story-wise, some groups got the spotlight more than others in recent years. It’s something he’s working on, but it’ll take a while to get more storylines ready, especially with other things (ie: trigs) having to be dealt with. > [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > They are probably getting something They’re not. They do what they do because they really do want to try to help get info out to the players. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2778 "2019-08-29T00:25:30Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > That wasn’t scripted > [@Arrendis](#): > > and they’re not trying to suck up to anyone. Poor wording on my part i guess - I never thought it was scripted but it did in parts come across as if it was. > [@Arrendis](#): > > and CCP clearly thinks that style will let them say whatever they like That right there, is what i was trying to convey. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2779 "2019-08-29T07:26:22Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > Most of your recent kills have been in fleets not gangs. > Most recently taking a nice loss to Test while you outnumbered them. > > Personally, I’d switch to posting with a char that has no kill history rather than use yours as an example of good game play. > > Waffles, Goons, PL, Frat and others - All teamed up together, there really isn’t much hope for Nulsec is there.,. You think we outnumbed that TEST gang? hahahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2780 "2019-08-29T08:26:03Z")
Assuming you are referring to my comments on TiS, with all due respect to Matterall, if he gets “extremely offended” by my negative comments, he then might want to show he is not kissing CCP behind by actually being aggressive and not letting them get way with stupidity. And no one is talking about being harsh, but right now what TiS is doing is kissing CCP behind and not questioning anything. And if you are referring to “TiS is basically a goons crew”, I am simply looking at the staff he is listing… I have myself done interviews in the past with devs on behalf of my gaming community (SQUAD devs and Americas Army devs), so I understand well the balance that is needed in interviews with devs, however in TiS case there is no balance at all and no challenge to CCP. And if the TiS guys really want to try to help get info out to players, they may want to get more aggressive and stop cozying to CCP And by the way, this is not to hijack the current thread, because TiS did interview CCP about the blackout ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2781 "2019-08-29T09:28:02Z")
According to Zkill you did 36 test to 48 “Waffles and others” - Maybe they had more in their fleet, who didn’t engage you. Can only go by who shot who, who lost what and other information Zkill provides. > **[zKillboard.com / Related Kills | G-YZUX | 2019-08-24 03:00](https://zkillboard.com/related/30003133/201908240300/)** > > A battle took place in G-YZUX (Esoteria) involving 84 pilots who lost a total of 3,277,450,978.25 isk ---
**Author:** ![Burinot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/burinot/32/171685_2.png) [@Burinot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Burinot)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2782 "2019-08-29T10:25:50Z")
I liked the Blackout at the beginning, when I used to roam with my main. The sensation of being a hunter unreported by intel is awesome. However, the days passed and a total of 10% chars are not loggin anymore. Other people have moved out from nullsec. Day by day, there are less people to kill in 0.0. Apart from bots, these people were pure nullsec PVE miners, industrialists and ratters. Nowadays, when I push F10 button, I’m feeling the universe in 0.0 is going to be empty soon. So, what’s the solution for me, blackout or not? Easy, both options at the same time. I would put Blackout as permanent, but only in the systems where a Triglavian Invasion is running. In the other systems I would put the local just as it was before. With both options available I think everyone would be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2783 "2019-08-29T10:30:22Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > According to Zkill you did 36 test to 48 “Waffles and others” - Maybe they had more in their fleet, who didn’t engage you. Can only go by who shot who, who lost what and other information Zkill provides. Yeah well, remove FRAT from our side. Then see what the numbers look like as I recal the waffles fleet was maybe 22 nerds…if that. It was a flash form because we found a rorq. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2784 "2019-08-29T10:35:43Z")
this is actually a good idea. And then the Triglavian Invasion could move between systems unannounced. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hortgar\_Frost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hortgar_frost/32/187451_2.png) [@Hortgar\_Frost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hortgar_Frost)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2785 "2019-08-29T13:56:08Z")
I thought that local comms were already back. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2786 "2019-08-29T14:00:30Z")
Huh? For real? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2787 "2019-08-29T15:28:40Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > And if you are referring to “TiS is basically a goons crew”, I am simply looking at the staff he is listing… Carneros is a game developer. Dirk’s been all over nullsec. McCloud’s a producer—a specific set of skills that he’s very good at using. It’s not about their current affiliations, it’s about what they bring to the table. > [@Hortgar\_Frost](#): > > I thought that local comms were already back. No, the chat system broke. The people who were showing up in ‘local’? They were in some random system somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/2788 "2019-08-29T15:54:16Z")
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