# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/331 "2019-07-20T07:25:09Z")
You sir are naive, if you do not understand this as an attack on a play style that CCP did not like, in “their” sand box. ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/333 "2019-07-20T07:30:03Z")
Take Local out of High Sec and reap the whirlwind… why should Nul be the scape goat for this data collection? F U ---
**Author:** ![Savotien\_Valpurgis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/savotien_valpurgis/32/170543_2.png) [@Savotien\_Valpurgis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Savotien_Valpurgis)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/334 "2019-07-20T07:31:28Z")
'cause it’s where “the big players” live ! ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/335 "2019-07-20T07:32:36Z")
No it is where the invested live…and have earned, what have YOU done? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/336 "2019-07-20T07:35:42Z")
If you remove local in hisec you will give a large advantage to freighter gankers who already have enough advantages as it is. There are no automated intel bots in hisec and there are no bots that require it. Also hisec is not exactly competing in terms of over ratting and over production. But if it is done purely out of spite then feel free. ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/337 "2019-07-20T07:37:00Z")
You have an uniformed opinion of what is done in Null, there are no automated intel BOT’s ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/338 "2019-07-20T07:37:59Z")
There is an active group of players that provide intel in a chat channel, because scrubs come into the space to wreak havoc…and do so successfully ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/339 "2019-07-20T07:39:25Z")
First, I’m hardly naive. This is not an ‘attack’ on any play style. This is CCP attempting to figure out how people in their game react to changes. This is a change what was easy to make, will be easy to undo, will not require any new coded systems in the game, and which has been discussed for a long time. That makes it an _excellent_ first choice for their testing regimen. As for who the testing effects… that’s one of the things they’re gathering data _on_, now isn’t it? During this change, are people who normally play in HS/LS trying out null? Are they roaming? Are people in null moving to empire? We don’t know. Hopefully though, in a couple more weeks, CCP _will_ know. They’ll have usable data they can begin to make comparisons with. > [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](#): > > Take Local out of High Sec and reap the whirlwind… why should Nul be the scape goat for this data collection? F U 2 big reasons I can think of: First: CCP says 70% of players never leave highsec. That means null is someplace they can disrupt without _too_ much risk of tanking the game. Second: Because it’s _null_. If you’re going to make someplace more dangerous, this should be it. And let’s face it, _we adapt_. Life in null is a never-ending sequence of adapting. We adapt to mechanics changes, to the shifting fleet meta, to political realities… adapting is kind of our strong suit. We’ve already adapted here, too: Be on comms. Be in the defense fleet or able to jump into it quick. Don’t be AFK. Simple, common-sense adaptations. We’re also capable of replying to a single post without using 3 freaking replies. That’s an adaptation you should pick up on. Especially since you’re now about to do it _again_. Use the damned ‘edit’ button to add more crap. This isn’t jabber. Converse like a goddamned adult, not a half-dead lemur. ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/340 "2019-07-20T07:41:18Z")
I did not se an overwhelming group of high sec pub lords waiting on the borders of Null, like the Oklahoma land rush, to take advantage of the outage…NO they just sit in high sec saying things like…Oh that’s fair…FU you have lived fair your whole existence in the game. You have maybe experienced loss in a burn Jita…(which you should). but never again. And you have never “earned” anything… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/343 "2019-07-20T07:50:35Z")
You got a real inflated sense of how much anyone gives a crap, don’cha? ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/345 "2019-07-20T07:57:14Z")
Or am I wrong? Should I just roll over…and say, Yes master, change without benefit is good, please more? ---
**Author:** ![Rebel\_Dog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rebel_dog/32/184717_2.png) [@Rebel\_Dog](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rebel_Dog)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/346 "2019-07-20T08:03:17Z")
im just wondering why everyone commenting on this thread have really poor killboards, like mr chopsy up here Ramona McCandless “nothing new from nul today then” look at this scrub: > **[Ramona McCandless | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/93276556/)** > > Ramona McCandless: 1 ships destroyed and 33 ships lost. when you have a clue about eve and pvp then you can have a comment about nul sec, until that point, shut yer yappin and stop being a crying little carebear who knows absolutley zero about the stuff you’re commenting about, now run along son… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/348 "2019-07-20T08:07:56Z")
And? Whats your point, champ? Youre the ones whining that leet pvprs are killing your bots. Heres a tip kiddo, you have more than one character slot. Or has your handler not explained that to you yet? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/350 "2019-07-20T08:10:05Z")
Sucking is a good skill. Crying, its a crowded market. ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/351 "2019-07-20T08:12:02Z")
Disagreeing and crying is a fine line, I am glade YOU don’t get to define it. If YOU ever disagree with a buff/nerf in the game that we supposedly like mutually, I will never say you are crying. I will discuss the change. But please please please bring a cup, because you will gather no tears from me. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/352 "2019-07-20T08:14:07Z")
> [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](#): > > glade Youre what? Dude it makes literally no difference what you say. The fact that you cant deal has amused us all no end. Please do unsub as you are all threatening. Or not. We have had more than enough amusment at your expense. Please feel free to have the last word, I gotta get to work. You know, that thing actual people do for your dole o7 ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/353 "2019-07-20T08:16:25Z")
If my comments have amused you, then: Good For You! Hip Hip Hurray. If my comments, other than those purposely meant as sarcasm or “trolling” have caused others to pause for thought…then hip hip hurray for me! You are still a scrub. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/354 "2019-07-20T08:16:50Z")
You are throwing a tantrum after 1 week of testing. No, that is not reasonable. CCP has not said this will be permanent. This change _does not_ meaningfully harm PvE activities in the area you live in. It’s fine to not like the change. It’s fine to express that you don’t like the change. But carrying on like a petulant child, screaming ‘FU’ left and right, accusing CCP of implementing some ‘ultimate solution’ when they very clearly _haven’t_… it just makes you come across as an idiot. Yeah, you’ve been playing the game for ten years. You’ve been in null for a chunk of that. You’ve been in the CFC/Imperium for a while. Lemme tell you right now, if Zagdul could see the way you’re carrying on, he’d slap you silly. > [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](#): > > you will gather no tears from me Yeah, promise, they’ve already gotten plenty of your tears from the 3 ‘FU’ posts and your original ‘ultimate solution’ post. Calm your ass down and learn to quit wihle you’re behind. ---
**Author:** ![Rebel\_Dog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rebel_dog/32/184717_2.png) [@Rebel\_Dog](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rebel_Dog)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/355 "2019-07-20T08:17:22Z")
hahahahah funny how you post off your gimp alt your just a high sec scrub who cant even come to nul sec now because there is no local LMAO GET A CLUE ABOUT EVE BUD then u can comment 😃 ❤ Butthurt high sec scrubs doing lvl4’s BTW i love the blackout, and all of us agree it would be better staying, we can smash all these noobs in our gatecamps because they have no idea how to navigate nul sec 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/356 "2019-07-20T08:17:28Z")
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