# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/381 "2019-07-20T13:23:49Z")

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Go to the game and take the CP is a game and displayed statistics? Bravo!

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**Author:** ![Timeles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/timeles/32/149818_2.png) [@Timeles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Timeles)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/382 "2019-07-20T13:24:20Z")

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dude, have you ever thought about ppl not posting with their real pvp chars here?  
My char is from around 2006 or 08 i think and has no kills at all as far as i know 😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![Timeles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/timeles/32/149818_2.png) [@Timeles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Timeles)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/383 "2019-07-20T13:27:53Z")

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with the speed they are working i give them 2 more years before EvE is history … i will kind of miss it but actually its not the only game in universe

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/384 "2019-07-20T14:07:29Z")

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Yeah, I heard that in 2009, too.

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**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/385 "2019-07-20T14:17:24Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Ive been flying around Null for an hour in an Orca, and I aint seen anyone

You need to be ratting in a Super before anyone will even undock!

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**Author:** ![Wildonec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wildonec/32/145440_2.png) [@Wildonec](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wildonec)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/386 "2019-07-20T14:45:47Z")

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I hope all the big null sec alliances storm High sec 0.5 systems taking them all over from the small corps. Places to now send their miners for supplies. Also hope ship values increase at 4x current value and also any T2 building becomes so costly that almost no one can afford it anymore. Then watch the pvpers cry and poor on the salt when prices of things go through the roof. Even the legit miners not botting all they did is make things easier to gank more miners. Honestly I think many miners are on edge already if they want to play the game anymore and think these changes will finally send them packing. Really hope it unfolds like this so pvpers got to pay a small fortune just to get one ship anymore!

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/388 "2019-07-20T14:53:28Z")

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Man you have some weird fantasies about how the economy works.

Not trying to kink shame you or anything but, woo.🤪

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/389 "2019-07-20T15:01:51Z")

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> [@Wildonec](#):
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> I hope all the big null sec alliances storm High sec 0.5 systems taking them all over from the small corps.

_How_, exactly?

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/390 "2019-07-20T15:11:14Z")

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A bit difficult to do that.

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/391 "2019-07-20T15:11:56Z")

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Very true for the stats, but the real stats I am interested in are the subscriptions and plex sales

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/392 "2019-07-20T16:42:52Z")

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zegy zergy zerg zerg?

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/393 "2019-07-20T16:44:03Z")

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> [@Wildonec](#):
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> pvpers like to pay a small fortune for one ship

FTFY!!!

Also feel i should state pretty much all the pvpers i know not only have market alts they usually have mining AND industrial alts; so… i guess wishful thinking on your part tbvh.

But nvm eh? GLHF!!

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**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/394 "2019-07-20T16:53:36Z")

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> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#):
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> Very true for the stats, but the real stats I am interested in are the subscriptions and plex sales

Welp, I’ll give you my personal stats

Sub since blackout: one account active  
Plex bought since blackout: 0%

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/395 "2019-07-20T17:16:21Z")

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perhaps true but then I wonder what the data is being collected for.

I like the whys answered

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**Author:** ![Syrio\_Ikunen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syrio_ikunen/32/149922_2.png) [@Syrio\_Ikunen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syrio_Ikunen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/396 "2019-07-20T18:19:29Z")

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just posting this here, so i don’t have to second guess myself later if or how i should have given explicit feedback.

When the blackout was announced i wasn’t particularly thrilled but interested in how it would play out.  
When it went into effect however it hit me more than i had expected. No local gives me the feeling of constantly needing to look over my shoulder and i don’t enjoy that at all, no matter if i’m out to pvp or pve. It pretty much killed my interest in logging in for anything but alliance pings and doing space work for my corp.  
i don’t know if i would stay in null or in the game even if this goes permanent… 🙄

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/397 "2019-07-20T18:25:20Z")

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Welcome to the game, id suggest completing the tutorial then moving into the career missions, GOOD LUCK out there!!

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**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/398 "2019-07-20T19:25:38Z")

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Be better if @CCP_Falcon actually got involved in the topic and provide some form of CCP side of things.

You know actual information, instead of all this player speculation.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/399 "2019-07-20T19:38:07Z")

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Too early. They’re at least two weeks away from having gathered _useful_ data. The current dataset would cover the Shock and maybe the beginnings of Adaptation stages. Adaptation is still on-going and will _probably_ need another week, and then you’d start seeing what the new stable situation is. Until then, it’s kind of pointless to have CCP statements on it, since it won’t actually tell anyone anything useful yet.

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**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/400 "2019-07-20T19:57:27Z")

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Doesn’t have to be offical.

We know @CCP_Falcon does post personal views and thoughts in the forums.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/401 "2019-07-20T20:15:23Z")

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One thing is accurate: this local blackout is good for my busine$$$$

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