# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 196
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3990 "2019-09-17T01:46:28Z")
You’ve already proven mine right and yours wrong by your crying, no further tantrums are going to change that. Nullsec is not safe space. That is why the likes of you, who need their safe space, do not live there. It’s been made 100% safe to gank, you came. It’s now back to 99% safe to gank, you cry. Run back to your safe space and cry me a river there. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3991 "2019-09-17T01:49:24Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Oh god, you made Orca start posting again. Oh don’t worry, I came as soon as I heard the derpout is over and was just looking for the nearest salt pile to kick over, he just happened to be one, I’d be totally fine with the next salty ganktard if he hadn’t bitten the bait. ---
**Author:** ![Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/borbarad_naglfar/32/131048_2.png) [@Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Borbarad_Naglfar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3992 "2019-09-17T01:53:24Z")
If you’d spent the same amount of effort on getting kills that umbrella alliances spend on maintaining relative safety you’d be less of a looser. Look at what Olmeca did before any of the chaos nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![lepro\_incin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lepro_incin/32/272033_2.png) [@lepro\_incin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lepro_incin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3993 "2019-09-17T01:57:25Z")
I dont need to live there and local being back wont stop me prowling I will just have to be more careful. but you and others are crying about those from outside null being able to be a viable threat to you so really its laughable you want to live in null, null is supposed to be a dangerous area but you want to be protected from people like me coming in and ganking you by being able to see threats coming as soon as they enter your alliance territory because station docked alts feed every +1 to an intel channel and 90% of other corps in your region are blue to you its just sad… nullsec is less what it was intended to be and is now just full of jaded veterans who have become so lax in there awareness they cry when people from high sec and low can get to them without a 10 minute warning. ---
**Author:** ![lepro\_incin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lepro_incin/32/272033_2.png) [@lepro\_incin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lepro_incin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3994 "2019-09-17T01:58:34Z")
looser… aw you hurt my feelings rofl ---
**Author:** ![Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/borbarad_naglfar/32/131048_2.png) [@Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Borbarad_Naglfar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3995 "2019-09-17T02:03:33Z")
Wich doesn’t invalidate my argument. You act as if you deserve free kills just for undocking. Complain about ‘safe’ ratting while BO made PVP absolute risk free and boring. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3996 "2019-09-17T02:06:08Z")
While I totally agree with the theme, one correction. Ganktarding is not pvp. It’s only done when it’s 100% safe to do, with explicit goal to avoid any pvp. Same for roams, actually, they’ll hit if it’s safe, they will just turn around and skedaddle if it’s not, avoiding pvp like a plague. ---
**Author:** ![lepro\_incin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lepro_incin/32/272033_2.png) [@lepro\_incin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lepro_incin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3997 "2019-09-17T02:06:49Z")
you want to talk about free kills knowing someone is coming from 10 systems out and having time to casually set up a little party and bubble on a gate thats a free kill… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3998 "2019-09-17T02:07:01Z")
What is the worse drug on the planet? > **[What is the Most Addictive Drug? Here Are the Top 5](https://americanaddictioncenters.org/adult-addiction-treatment-programs/most-addictive)** > > Dependency is the simple definition of an addictive drug. The most addictive of these include drugs that cause a physical and psychological addiction. They are so wrong. Its adrenaline. And this game is running out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/3999 "2019-09-17T02:18:18Z")
> [@lepro\_incin](#): > > you want to talk about free kills knowing someone is coming from 10 systems out and having time to casually set up a little party and bubble on a gate thats a free kill… Nobody in nullsec does that, you lowsec chicken. The reasons are explained later under the spoiler, if you lack the knowledge, but what we do in nullsec is HUNT. If you know where the target is, you don’t sit there only to see it turn to whatever side of the head was hit by the piss fountain suddenly surging in ganktard’s brains, you go after it. That’s how local promotes pvp, you want a fight, get spotted and people will come for you. No local? Nobody can find you, no pvp happening, which is what all you ganktards honestly want. > **Spoiler** > > First of all, it takes time. 10 systems or 5 minutes is not enough to assemble people on the gate, neither it is usually enough to bring and anchor a bubble (you’ll need a large one to cover the gate, and it anchors for 8 minutes). Even if you already have a bubble and a gang, all you’re gonna see is ganktard skedaddling back to the gate, and out, running like a chicken he is, making the gate-bubble-camp setup a total waste of effort. What’s worse, he can run into the system instead, and then just mingle there until you remove camp and bubble, and pay him to gtfo, making system otherwise unusable for pve ships. Therefore, speaking about bubble camps like you know something is just your lowsec ignorance talking. ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4000 "2019-09-17T02:19:12Z")
**Null Sec living** is not pvp. It’s only done when it’s 100% safe to do, with explicit goal to avoid any pvp. Same for roams, actually, they’ll hit if it’s safe, they will just turn around and skedaddle if it’s not, avoiding pvp like a plague. Fixed that for you @Orca_Platypus ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4001 "2019-09-17T02:22:12Z")
Hahahahaha, nice. I mean, totally stupid, but nice try. Of course, you don’t even understand nullsec pvp. All you need to do to get all the nullsec pvp you want, is to come and make a goddamn timer. Guaranteed pvp, no avoidance. No balls to make a timer? Stay in lowsec until your hen lays you some, chicken, you don’t deserve null pvp. ---
**Author:** ![lepro\_incin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lepro_incin/32/272033_2.png) [@lepro\_incin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lepro_incin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4002 "2019-09-17T02:29:00Z")
really dude you are either an alt char set up just to have a forum troll or you have been so inactive for so long you no longer appear to have any history outside of forum trolling. either way your words say all we need to know your a null sec dweller that is scared of high sec solo gankers take a bow lol ---
**Author:** ![Wiggy\_Wiggerson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wiggy_wiggerson/32/169238_2.png) [@Wiggy\_Wiggerson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wiggy_Wiggerson)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4003 "2019-09-17T02:31:15Z")
We lost 25% of our players. This was just a test… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4004 "2019-09-17T02:33:26Z")
Where were you when it went from a 50 k avg to 20? ---
**Author:** ![Cicada\_Adacic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cicada_adacic/32/487434_2.png) [@Cicada\_Adacic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cicada_Adacic)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4005 "2019-09-17T02:33:34Z")
Ultimately, the best way to show that you were right , and that BLACKOUT was a bad idea, is to subscribe as many accounts as possible and purchase lots of PLEX 😁👍 ---
**Author:** ![ZeroEight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeroeight/32/509628_2.png) [@ZeroEight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ZeroEight)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4006 "2019-09-17T02:35:39Z")
To keep it short. Blackout was the best decision CCP has made and removing it has been the worst. I’m that disappointed with this back track I don’t really want to log in anymore. SMH ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4007 "2019-09-17T02:36:57Z")
First of all, we may even agree on a few things. This is a forum alt, because I learned 9 years ago, while being a noob, that if you complain about griefing on main, you’ll get extra griefers your way. Anonymity has served me well ever since, especially against lame losers like you who are just desperate for an ad hominem due to running out of any better arguments. Second, yes, I think hisec ganktarding is a bane, because a trained dog can probably pull that off, making it terribly easy, disproportionately rewarding, and uncounterable (100% of ships passing Uedama can be ganked, the lazyness and stupidity of ganktards is the only thing preventing that from happening, agree?). What we can also agree on is that you’re terrible at making arguments, lack game knowledge, especially about nullsec defensive pvp tactics, and totally wrong about the effects of blackout and chances of avoiding a ganktard it presented. > [@Cicada\_Adacic](#): > > Ultimately, the best way to show that you were right , and that BLACKOUT was a bad idea, is to subscribe as many accounts as possible and purchase lots of PLEX 😁👍 Or just wait for blackout hypedouches to unsub without subbing first. making a lesson stick. > [@ZeroEight](#): > > Blackout was the **worst** decision CCP has made and removing it **without proper apology** has been the worst **as well**. ftfy ---
**Author:** ![lepro\_incin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lepro_incin/32/272033_2.png) [@lepro\_incin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lepro_incin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4008 "2019-09-17T02:43:41Z")
1. anonymity using a forum alt is just another level to your **safe space bubble** 2. i have never ganked in high sec I hunt in WH and null 3. I am a new player and still learning and today I am learning a lot about null sec carebears and things that make them cry ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4009 "2019-09-17T02:52:20Z")
> [@lepro\_incin](#): > > anonymity using a forum alt is just another level to your **safe space bubble** No, that is normal security measures. Nullsec, where anyone from any part of the galaxy can bring his guns within 30 minutes and nuke the station you’re sitting in, is NOT safe by any means. > [@lepro\_incin](#): > > i have never ganked in high sec I hunt in WH and null Judging by the fact the biggest target you “hunt” is an astero, and you have 1:2 k/d ratio against it, you probably should consider it. > [@lepro\_incin](#): > > I am a new player and still learning and today I am learning a lot about null sec carebears and things that make them cry That’s cool! Call me when you kill your first one then, cuz none of your kills so far are nullsec carebears. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=195) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=197)