# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/23 "2019-07-18T19:28:37Z")

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> [@The Blackout and the players](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-blackout-and-the-players/176376/1):
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> However, there are many other ways to do it rather than prevent a lot of the game from playing.

Back in the day, nullsec was much less accessible for carebears than it has been in the last few years. More for cultural reasons than anything else, but CCP has also altered the game mechanics to encourage alliances to more actively farm their sovereign space too.

People who did low risk carebearing or “krabbing” or whatever you want to call it, as a primary playstyle, they just did it in other places. For the most part. Most notably in highsec. The game survived, even thrived, and nobody was “prevented from playing”.

I can sympathize with the frustration when CCP nerfs your playstyle in some way that makes it no longer seem viable. I used to be a ninja salvager, then spend most of my EVE career as a solo or small corporation wardeccer. These playstyles are effectively nonexistant today. It sucks, but I found other stuff to do. EVE is good like that - lots of gameplay options.

These changes don’t prevent anyone from playing. They just make you find a different way to play. If you don’t want to adapt, I understand that too. No need to play a game that you don’t like - safe journey wherever you go from here.

Face it though, EVE is a constantly changing game. Any particular playstyle is eventually going to disappear. Its your choice whether you want to adapt or not. Probably all long term players have had to make that same choice from time to time.

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**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/24 "2019-07-18T19:28:46Z")

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But still, its not about the inflation. Null was just safer then highsec before. Suggest something alternative which increases the risk to a similiar point, and also removes all the botters. And i’m maybe on your side.

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**Author:** ![Luka\_LAMARR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luka_lamarr/32/227356_2.png) [@Luka\_LAMARR](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luka_LAMARR)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/25 "2019-07-18T19:31:23Z")

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But there is no more local in null-sec paralyzes people who would just like to play for example.  
Certainly, it adds some spice to PvP, but for those who just want to play from time to time, farm quietly without taking a blap of 10 dreadnoughts on the mouth

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**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/26 "2019-07-18T19:34:01Z")

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adapt,  
you are annoyed by the single loki which kills your vnis. Group up, rat together, bring a scram or two and kill him next time.  
if its the smallgang which roams now your space, group up, rat together, bring a scram, maybe some ecm, and kill or hold them long enough until cavalry arrives  
etc…

there is lots of options, even without caps, mainly it affects those who don’t socialize, bots and multiboxer. and all of them can go to highsec and live there in peace if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/28 "2019-07-18T20:00:58Z")

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> [@CCP\_Falcon](#):
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> For the first time ever, you guys managed to hit the 10,000 post limit that Discourse has on threads, so the original thread is locked automatically.

oh god, i’m happy with the blackout, but please keep the thread closed 😂

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/29 "2019-07-18T20:07:42Z")

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@CCP_Falcon

The fact that we even reached that point should show you that the blackout is the worst idea to ever come out of CCP. Bring local back!!!

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/30 "2019-07-18T20:09:29Z")

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I will yell when eve is fluffy and safe for you to come out of your little hidey hole, don’t worry no one will hurt you.

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**Author:** ![Jask\_Askari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jask_askari/32/270519_2.png) [@Jask\_Askari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jask_Askari)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/31 "2019-07-18T20:11:38Z")

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hi. the blackout is good.

thanks

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**Author:** ![Bronson\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bronson_hughes/32/189075_2.png) [@Bronson\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bronson_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/32 "2019-07-18T20:14:57Z")

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Most contested, definitely.

Worst? That remains to be seen.

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**Author:** ![Legit\_Salesgirl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_salesgirl/32/424671_2.png) [@Legit\_Salesgirl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_Salesgirl)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/33 "2019-07-18T20:22:57Z")

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kekekeke 😃

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/34 "2019-07-18T20:23:04Z")

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When nullbear recruits ask “Who is Falcon?”…

![q2zdvoyv0e231](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/d/2dab98dc485d49815647543742ca08a9f9921a80.gif)

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**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/35 "2019-07-18T20:23:42Z")

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@CCP Forum Wizards - can you data-mine the locked thread and share your snapshot of unique-poster sentiment?

- unique posters #
- first-time posters #
- % in favor
- % opposed
- % undetermined

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/36 "2019-07-18T20:23:54Z")

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It has already been seen.  
But what I would be interested in seeing is the Plex purchase stats since the blackout

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/37 "2019-07-18T20:26:41Z")

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We also want number of bot accounts that quit, plus can you cross check those to see how many were lying? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/38 "2019-07-18T20:27:28Z")

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The next two MERs will be super interesting.

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**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/39 "2019-07-18T20:29:57Z")

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The blackout is a fantastic thing, we should have let the thread die at 10000 like botter’s dreams in null.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/40 "2019-07-18T20:30:20Z")

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Congrats to @DunDaDun, winner of round 1!

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**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/41 "2019-07-18T20:32:21Z")

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> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#):
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> @CCP Forum Wizards - can you data-mine the locked thread and share your snapshot of unique-poster sentiment?
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> - unique posters #
> - first-time posters #
> - % in favor
> - % opposed
> - % undetermined

Also other key statics like

- times the word “ganktard” was used
- number of posts flagbombed
- number of posters that outright admitted to botting

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/42 "2019-07-18T20:33:54Z")

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Nope. Falcon merged other threads into that one after it auto-locked.

> [@Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10061):
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> i got 10000 i HOPE free local for the Little guys lol

is actually the one that locked it.

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**Author:** ![Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennardt_thiesant/32/508176_2.png) [@Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennardt_Thiesant)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/43 "2019-07-18T20:34:40Z")

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find ik jut!

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