# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jin\_ko82](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_ko82/32/493817_2.png) [@jin\_ko82](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/jin_ko82)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4917 "2020-01-22T23:12:50Z")

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stop being a little pussi nullbear

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**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4918 "2020-01-23T02:10:17Z")

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> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#):
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> The party that… never ends?

Everything that came into existence will always have an end. That is the nature of “Creation”.

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4919 "2020-01-23T08:35:59Z")

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As it was written by many others, no issue with blackout from the moment there is an efficient counter measure (intel tower for example), but a straight blackout like what they did this past summer? hell no. And that would be the quickest and surest way to have the game shut down within weeks if not days

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**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4920 "2020-01-23T14:02:59Z")

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hell yes!

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**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4921 "2020-01-23T17:42:16Z")

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CCP just need to beef up the belt rats with capitals hehe

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4922 "2020-01-25T08:58:17Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Don’t feel too bad, Naari hasn’t been around that long either. He’s a notorious liar and narcissist who won’t shut up about his “game” he’s making that will totally kill EVE. TBH, you’ve probably got more EVE experience than he does.

Well, the DD/BC thing was certainly interesting, since even a 2013 relative newbie like me knows about that despite having started playing 2 weeks or so after that change. But all the BOB stuff… why lie? There’s no profit in it here… in game, sure. but here?

Anyway, an EVE-killing game, eh? Sounds like Derek Smart and the whole Star Citizen-killing game he wanted to make.

> [@Naari\_Naarian](#):
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> Everything that came into existence will always have an end. That is the nature of “Creation”.

There was a reason for the ellipsis before the “never ends”…

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4923 "2020-01-25T18:37:44Z")

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> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#):
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> why lie?

Because he’s a narcissist. He desperately needs to feel important and respected, even if he hasn’t done anything to deserve it.

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**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4924 "2020-01-25T20:52:40Z")

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LOL. Derek Smart could barely get Alganon working…

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4925 "2020-01-28T08:34:02Z")

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Hm, very well, Merin. I just feel like he could get attention without lying pointlessly about when he started playing the game.

Like I said… Derek Smart “wanted” to make. Not succeeded at making. 😉 From what I hear, he’s not a very good game dev himself (but he does have some good points about how badly the SC team has managed things for the past decade due to their crowdfunding efforts producing more fruit than was initially expected!).

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**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4927 "2020-01-28T09:32:44Z")

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Blackout made null security space feel more dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Ergort\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ergort_aideron/32/182287_2.png) [@Ergort\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ergort_Aideron)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4928 "2020-01-29T01:17:38Z")

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yeah. far more dangerous… good to hear. i was thinking about returning to the game but i discover, that my carrier in nullsec is now just useless. i wasted half of a year to get sp for it and now its gone. NSA, local… i dont think i want to pay for this game. if id wanted to just pvp without purpose, id have a lot of session-based games. it would a lot more fun.

those, who talking about “players will adapt to changes” are right. a lot players, most of them adapted over the years… by finding another game 😃 its a good thing i checked what changed in the game, before returning.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4929 "2020-01-29T01:27:53Z")

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> [@Ergort\_Aideron](#):
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> my carrier in nullsec is now just useless

No. You as a player are useless. Don’t blame your innocent carrier for your lack of ability to cope with any kind of PvP threat to your mindless farming.

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**Author:** ![Danielle\_Omanid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/danielle_omanid/32/298952_2.png) [@Danielle\_Omanid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Danielle_Omanid)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4930 "2020-01-29T01:40:22Z")

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umm Blackout ended. Local is back up, been back up for a few months. CCP realized it was horrible for the game and brought it back right after those monthly reports came in and seen the massive drop in Subs and Plex purchased.

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**Author:** ![Danielle\_Omanid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/danielle_omanid/32/298952_2.png) [@Danielle\_Omanid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Danielle_Omanid)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4931 "2020-01-29T01:44:06Z")

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LOL The Matani said people who still believe blackout was good for the game are like anti vaxxers at this point haha IT’S FUNNY CAUSE IT’S TRUE… the stats show it. More like flat earthers IMO

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4932 "2020-01-29T02:37:39Z")

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Blackout was good for the game.

Blackout was bad for CCP’s subscription income.

What the blackout revealed was the sad truth that CCP makes a bunch of money from pathetic farmer trash that will ragequit at the first sign of anything that reduces their farming income or forces them to invest effort into their farming. And so CCP put maintaining subscription revenue ahead of making a good game.

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**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4933 "2020-01-29T18:45:08Z")

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No trading in-game currency or items for real world currency.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Reaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_reaper/32/183043_2.png) [@Steve\_Reaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Reaper)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4935 "2020-01-31T16:21:48Z")

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What are you on about people play the game in there own way they advertise and I quote “be your own pilot mold the world to your playstyle” back in 2014. just because your obsessed with pvp and have daddy issues doesn’t mean people farming or enjoying the PVE aspect of the game is a bad thing. you just need to find other people with daddy issues like you and you can fight amongst each other. I pay money to play a game how I see fit not how you want it played.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4936 "2020-01-31T16:42:51Z")

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Being PvE farmer trash is not a “play style”, it’s a toxic mindset held by people who do not belong in EVE. See that part about “mold the world to your play style”? That means using PvP force to take what you want, not having CCP hand you a zero-risk farming area where you can repeat the same menial tasks over and over and over again until you get bored and quit.

The simple fact is that EVE is a PvP game and you are doing the equivalent of joining a FPS server and demanding that everyone stop shooting at you so you can walk around and enjoy the scenery. Go back to WoW, because that is the kind of game you want.

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**Author:** ![Burak\_Oz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/burak_oz/32/499028_2.png) [@Burak\_Oz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Burak_Oz)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4937 "2020-02-01T00:09:27Z")

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If i can login i can see there is a chat connection problem. But i can’t login too!

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**Author:** ![Ian\_Hammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_hammer/32/173498_2.png) [@Ian\_Hammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4938 "2020-02-01T00:29:45Z")

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ok yesterdaay funky connection so no abyss or anything for me… today ZERO comms… whats goin on?

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