# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 245
**Author:** ![Helmi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/helmi/32/248333_2.png) [@Helmi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Helmi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4983 "2020-11-10T12:01:21Z")
CCP pleace return the Nullsec Local Blackout. its time now! ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4984 "2020-11-15T09:18:39Z")
Hell no!!! ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4985 "2020-11-15T14:47:40Z")
Absolutely hell yes. It should be brought back in some form, perhaps in the form of a [blackout deployable](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introduce-blackout-deployable/247162). @Brisc_Rubal said he would bring it up. Question is… did he? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4986 "2020-11-15T16:39:12Z")
I brought it up in the context of the roaming weather feature. ---
**Author:** ![Pith\_Hurdaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pith_hurdaa/32/198748_2.png) [@Pith\_Hurdaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pith_Hurdaa)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4987 "2020-11-16T07:58:26Z")
I´m positive the guy who brought this up was fired a year ago, and for a good reason. Stop hitting the carcass with a branch. Its dead. ---
**Author:** ![Storm\_DarkMatter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/storm_darkmatter/32/417965_2.png) [@Storm\_DarkMatter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Storm_DarkMatter)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4988 "2020-11-18T19:35:35Z")
Eve is a social game. Without local it is less social. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4989 "2020-11-18T19:53:33Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I brought it up in the context of the roaming weather feature. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/8/088ef2f7f58fded2e04ac5ee9c3793adacc144f9.gif) 🔴 THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEANT YOU RED-DOTTED FOOL ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4990 "2020-11-18T20:07:15Z")
The only way you’re going to get any kind of blackout is by shoe horning it into something that already exists. I don’t think they’ll do a deployable. A storm with blackout as a feature is way more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4991 "2020-11-18T23:59:28Z")
> [@Storm\_DarkMatter](#): > > Eve is a social game. Without local it is less social. Local is almost never used for social purposes, it’s purely an intel tool for knowing if/when a threat or target is in the system. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4992 "2020-11-19T07:06:55Z")
And again, as has been said over many threads, if CCP is that dumb and they want EVE dead within weeks of them re-releasing a blackout…Please stop promoting such non-sense and instead have them provide details about the servers and how far along they are with Hadean, which should be their focus and priority ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4993 "2020-11-19T15:03:28Z")
They just provided two updates on the servers and server performance. As for Hadeon, I’ve asked, but that’s a long, long term technology change, not something we will see any time soon. You might as well go over there and ask those guys how they’re doing. They aren’t part of CCP - they’re separate company. It would be like asking EA how far along Unity is. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4994 "2020-11-19T19:59:25Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Local is almost never used for social purposes, it’s purely an intel tool for knowing if/when a threat or target is in the system. _\* Making an effort to reach out to the lone wolf \*_ May I have the distinguished privilege and pleasure of being your first friend? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4995 "2020-11-21T17:32:10Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Local is almost never used for social purposes, it’s purely an intel tool for knowing if/when a threat or target is in the system. Hardly a day goes by when I don’t recognize a streamer or someone I used to play with and strike up a conversation…sometimes even reconnect. Other times it’s very useful for information about getting diplo, or just trading gibes, or offers of recruitment. Unless one is in those rare…“no talking in local” authoritarian outfits, local is one of the most useful ingame social tools in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Shadalana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadalana/32/207845_2.png) [@Shadalana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadalana)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4996 "2020-11-21T18:22:49Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Local is almost never used for social purposes, it’s purely an intel tool for knowing if/when a threat or target is in the system. not by you, but hey are you even playing eve? ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4997 "2020-11-25T02:22:32Z")
Can we get blackout back? To many people complaining about cloaky camping, which would be a non tactic if local didn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4998 "2020-11-25T16:14:54Z")
Please, for god sake, stop with this BO non sense. As far as the cloaky issue, it has always been a problem, and what CCP needs to do is to give a counter play for it. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/4999 "2020-11-25T16:57:02Z")
> [@Lillith\_Sakata](#): > > Can we get blackout back? To many people complaining about cloaky camping, which would be a non tactic if local didn’t exist. Why ? are you having a hard time killing pve ships in a PvP ship? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/5000 "2020-11-25T17:24:42Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > what CCP needs to do is to give a counter play for it There are already many counter plays to AFK cloaking. The fact that “solo farm AFK 23/7 with zero risk” is not one of them is not a game design problem. ---
**Author:** ![Shadalana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadalana/32/207845_2.png) [@Shadalana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadalana)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/5001 "2020-11-25T18:03:07Z")
counter play is something active you can do to force the cloaky to move and there is no active way to counter a cloaky ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/5002 "2020-11-26T04:49:34Z")
> [@Shadalana](#): > > counter play is something active you can do to force the cloaky to move No, that is just one narrow subset of possible counters that you have decided to focus on to the exclusion of all else. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that it’s the one most desired by RMT botters. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=244) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=246)