# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Harok\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harok_sunji/32/150144_2.png) [@Harok\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harok_Sunji)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/563 "2019-07-22T01:35:45Z")
Also ppls should have to bring down their astrahus to replace it by a fortizar when assets have a number with a limit… Also those astrahus tether spams with invasions wont work anymore, more all or nothing offense / defense. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/564 "2019-07-22T01:42:47Z")
But if you listen to the autistic screeching you’d think the world was on fire, people were abandoning ship as the server pops sunk into oblivion… They’ll somehow find a way to misread this chart, btw. Although I will say that we still need a few months of stats imo. ---
**Author:** ![Harok\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harok_sunji/32/150144_2.png) [@Harok\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harok_Sunji)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/565 "2019-07-22T01:43:58Z")
If they are seperated, the line members are separated and they wont appreciate one guy who is not in their alliance holding their assets… Will be easy to see / tell when that guy you mentioned is favoriting one alliance over all the rest… Since they wont be as strong anymore, they will get more attacks aswell. No overrated supercap umbralla anymore. Just fix assets ((super)ships / citadels) an alliance can have. Whatever i dont know but ccp is not hurting big blocks atm… that was the point of drifters aswell ? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/566 "2019-07-22T01:44:19Z")
Strictly speaking, that’s true. But… those other effects get filtered out _if_ the test runs long enough. Also, CCP’ll have the actual information that we don’t, like ‘how many people logged in just long enough to get the SP?’ ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/567 "2019-07-22T01:47:00Z")
You have no idea how the big blocs work. First: why _would_ that person favor one alliance over the others? Why wouldn’t they be as strong, when they can simply respond as a combined force? Why would the supercapital umbrella be impacted _at all_? Right now, Goonswarm, Lawn, TNT, and the Bastion all live in the same space. Multiple alliances. They all get into the same fleets. They’re all ratting and mining in the same systems, shopping in the same markets. The supercapital umbrella is comprised of all of them. What makes you think that would change? > [@Harok\_Sunji](#): > > Whatever i dont know but ccp is not hurting big blocks atm… that was the point of drifters aswell ? Says who? Seriously. Who told you _that_ was the point of the Drifters? I’m willing to bet it wasn’t CCP. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/568 "2019-07-22T01:47:02Z")
This is why I spent the weekend camping and beating the sheet outta my jet ski. Give it a month…🙂 Edit; Go outside I guess is my point for now. ---
**Author:** ![Harok\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harok_sunji/32/150144_2.png) [@Harok\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harok_Sunji)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/569 "2019-07-22T01:50:40Z")
When drifters were launched, drifter attacks would be bigger on big blocks than on smaller blocks. ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/570 "2019-07-22T01:53:09Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > 10,000 players log in at 00:00 and remain logged in for the **entire** day. > > 1000 additional players log in at 12:00 and log out at 13:00. > 2000 additional players log in at 18:00 and log out at 19:00. > > How many players logged in that day? > What was the maximum number of concurrent players? The question should be, of those 10,000 players logged on for 23hours and 45 minutes, how many are Bots and AFK multibox players? The 2,000 and 1,000 connects would indicates they are real players playing for an hour or more. Sure of those 10,000 connection there will be logins and outs within an the time period selected to monitor. Monitor data every 15 seconds might give a better capture of logins and logouts. It depends on how good the data is and how well data is analyzed. And how said person presents the data they have manipulated. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/571 "2019-07-22T01:53:46Z")
> [@Harok\_Sunji](#): > > When drifters were launched, drifter attacks would be bigger on big blocks than on smaller blocks. The Drifters were attacking every region. Other than Delve, it seemed pretty evenly distributed. And we pretty much had it solved within 12h, and completely locked down by the 2nd day. And when I say ‘we’, I mean ‘all across nullsec’. Yes, we expressed what a ridiculously stupid move we thought it was to force PvE on everyone at the expense of 2 significant player-driven campaigns in a game that _markets itself_ on player-driven wars, but that doesn’t mean it actually _hurt_ us. It inconvenienced us. And really, something minor that’s annoying will almost always get more complaints than something significant that people actually have to spend time _fixing_. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/572 "2019-07-22T01:54:42Z")
We were really just trying to establish the difference between “total” and max(concurrent). ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/573 "2019-07-22T01:55:19Z")
The whole issue with that Eve Offline monitor is it’s based on active accounts per a specific time, not amount of actual players. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/574 "2019-07-22T01:56:26Z")
Because the guy who runs it (Chribba) is a normal player. He only has access to the same information we all have access to. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/575 "2019-07-22T03:33:14Z")
Never heard of a player custom channel. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/576 "2019-07-22T03:37:42Z")
Throw away toon in a perch 1500km off a gate in a corvette works fine. Free ship with a blank clone. No cloak or omega required. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/577 "2019-07-22T06:42:08Z")
> [@AnatanD\_Airin](#): > > Wormhole: > > -“Delayed” Local > -only a fixed amount of Mass can fit through a Wormhole depending on the WH-Size > -No Stargates > -Wormhole Entries collpase after a specific amount of Mass or Time and spawn somewhere else > -High Risk, High Reward Ratting, especially Class 5 & 6 Wormholes (2b+ isk/h with a Dread fittet for 6b) > -Hard to Locate > -You can’t jump into a WH with a Jump Drive > -No Supercapitals > -Moongoo > > Nullsec: > > -Has Stargates > -Supercapitals > -Moderate to High Risk, Low Reward Ratting (Compared to J-Space Ratting) 200m isk/h with a 20b+ Ship > -Moongoo > -Easy to reach with Cynos > -Cloaky Camping > -Enemy can bring in infinite reinforcements HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH Moongoo in wormholes… lol… Moongoo in j-space is no different than the moongoo in hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennardt_thiesant/32/508176_2.png) [@Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennardt_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/578 "2019-07-22T07:33:27Z")
Hello, i think “Blackout” its a good thing, to clear up the nullsec from the big allianz but now, i think the big alliance are to big and can defence from pirates and other aggressiv players, they use the blackout to terror little nullsec alliance. i see it in my corp, many people log off because they cant mining im nullsec. we have no scouts because we are not many people because our reallife is the first. maybe ccp think at the real life daddys and moms, they play eve online and would like to have fun, not stress in nullsec for everytime. fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/579 "2019-07-22T07:40:56Z")
You dont play because Null is too scary, but you want God to fix it for you rather than work around it? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/580 "2019-07-22T07:42:15Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > ou know what we can’t do? > > **We can’t say what that means.** We can say that it is about the same trend as any other year - the summer dip in active players numbers is quite consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennardt_thiesant/32/508176_2.png) [@Lennardt\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennardt_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/581 "2019-07-22T07:45:13Z")
I’m to little in the big EVE space and i say what i see. Only CCP knows how to handle the information. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/582 "2019-07-22T07:50:06Z")
Then you are in for a long wait. Seriously, there are plenty of ways in the game to get whay you want without begging for the game to be changed for your benefit. How else do you think the big dogs you are scared of got so big? Oh wait… Nm. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=29)