# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Atchiee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atchiee/32/122392_2.png) [@Atchiee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atchiee)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/704 "2019-07-23T01:29:07Z")
If this keeps up I will be closing my 7 Accounts. I know of at least 40 of my friends who have left the game so far and it might not mean too much to you guys, but I see this as things to come for a lot more ppl. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/705 "2019-07-23T02:33:14Z")
Also an opt in survey, on a thread mostly used by Null Sec players will not give fair results. Your results will say a massive number of players want the black out gone and it has been very bad for the game. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/706 "2019-07-23T02:52:24Z")
This reminds me of the thousands of PvE players who let the game over first 5 years, who the big bad Null Sec players told to HTFU. Now the shoe is on the other foot. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/707 "2019-07-23T03:00:00Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > Now the shoe is on the other foot. And which foot is that? Anyone in null who’s crying over this _still_ needs to HTFU. Lots of money and big toys are means to an end. That end is still war. If ‘make things blow up’ isn’t at least _among_ the reasons you’re out here, you shouldn’t be out here. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/708 "2019-07-23T03:15:49Z")
Exactly, I am having a ball. I was unsubbed and my first toon would have went black yesterday and the other four in Sept. Staying aboard now. This is great. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/709 "2019-07-23T03:21:32Z")
CCP really need to advertise the fact that Null has No local. They will find people will come back, now that Null is not so safe. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/710 "2019-07-23T03:31:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Update: I had a character lose standings with Rogue Drones last night. 😲 Really, how much standing and do Rogue Drones show up in the list of Factions on the Interactions page of the character sheet? 🤔 Maybe link a screen shot of it? ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/711 "2019-07-23T04:06:52Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > This reminds me of the thousands of PvE players who let the game over first 5 years, who the big bad Null Sec players told to HTFU. > Now the shoe is on the other foot. Turns out they just _said_ they were leaving, but they actually went to to go PvE in null. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/712 "2019-07-23T05:39:12Z")
> [@Atchiee](#): > > If this keeps up I will be closing my 7 Accounts. If you want, I can hold onto your non-alpha stuff for you. _disclaimer, all equipment will be liquidated after a week._ ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/713 "2019-07-23T05:54:10Z")
I > [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > CCP really need to advertise the fact that Null has No local. They will find people will come back, now that Null is not so safe. I dont think WH space has that many people, for them to come back to null. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/714 "2019-07-23T06:01:54Z")
Wormhole space is NOT Null without Local. Null with Local is like a safer version of Hi-sec for the alliances. Without it we are getting closer to the lawless space it is meant to be. ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/715 "2019-07-23T06:03:41Z")
> [@Gizznitt\_Malikite](#): > > There’s a lot of metrics for measuring the impact of the blackout, and while last weekend was a drop, this weekend was a return of activity. It’ll be interesting to see hard data in the coming weeks. i d say that this weekend was a measure of the impact of free sp ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/716 "2019-07-23T06:13:18Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > Wormhole space is NOT Null without Local. No one said WH is Null without local. > [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > Without it we are getting closer to the lawless space it is meant to be. On the contrary, null with local was already the lawless space it was meant to be. It has allowed the players to colonize it and let them impose their laws on the lawless space as its was meant to be. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/717 "2019-07-23T06:17:18Z")
HAHAHAHAHA Now that is as funny as hell. Null was never meant to be a lot safer than Hi-sec. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/718 "2019-07-23T06:18:32Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > What’re they going to do, gank you? Keep it up long enough, and you’ll tank their sec status and get them locked out of their own system. Cause there is no such thing is gank alts… ---
**Author:** ![Milto\_Farroads](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milto_farroads/32/145201_2.png) [@Milto\_Farroads](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milto_Farroads)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/719 "2019-07-23T06:25:30Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > Now that is as funny as hell. Null was never meant to be a lot safer than Hi-sec It is not safer than Hi-sec. You can kill stuff there. Sure its safer for the locals that organize, but not for everybody else. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/720 "2019-07-23T06:31:48Z")
No it was safe for the locals to flee like cockroaches when a light is turned on when people showed up in local. ---
**Author:** ![Edrion\_Ituin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/edrion_ituin/32/145521_2.png) [@Edrion\_Ituin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Edrion_Ituin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/721 "2019-07-23T06:33:44Z")
Stupid answere, null is without the alliances dangerous and lawless, alliances make there claimed space save. and so should it bee… if u need targets for gangs … work for it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/722 "2019-07-23T06:40:22Z")
Yeah they do, though by the time I saw this it was too late to take a pic I lost a chip of standing, just like you would for ratting. Oddly, all my characters seem to start positive with them. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/723 "2019-07-23T06:43:45Z")
There should be safety in numbers but Null with Local was safer than Hi-sec under the protection of massive NPC races numbering in the billions. That makes no sense. Without local, now it makes sense. There is safety in numbers and the risk is almost enough to justify the massive rewards. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=36)