# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Q\_EPT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/q_ept/32/141567_2.png) [@Q\_EPT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Q_EPT)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/744 "2019-07-23T13:03:00Z")
На всю инфраструктуру нашей корпорации (включаяя затраты на топливо) уходит 40 000 000 000 иск. в месяц. Снять все структуры сейчас значит потерять 150 000 000 000 иск на модернизации. И вот главный вопрос: Будут ли изменения в нулях или оставят так как сейчас??? Это важно не ботоводам а людям, которые тратили огромное количество времени на создание своего угла в песочнице. Ответственным за такую неопределенность гореть в аду! Все остальные предложения и комментарии - круги на воде. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/745 "2019-07-23T13:39:37Z")
The map is delayed intel at best, and on the scales involved it’s pretty mediocre intel compared to what local provides. Don’t pretend to be _that_ dim. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/746 "2019-07-23T13:39:52Z")
Gesundheit. ---
**Author:** ![Atomka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atomka/32/150379_2.png) [@Atomka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atomka)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/747 "2019-07-23T13:49:11Z")
согласен, и присоединяюсь к вопросу как долго не будет локала оплачивать окна или можно забить на игру? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/748 "2019-07-23T14:26:35Z")
> [@Merovee](#): > > Does anyone have the alpha/Omega break down of the daily login numbers? I would like to see a graph if possible. CCP - Although I wouldn’t assume that player numbers (peak, trough or average) is the only metric that will decide if the blackout stays. It’s feasible for CCP to see and drop in the average numbers in space yet and have an increase in engagement and even an increase in store sales. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/749 "2019-07-23T14:34:48Z")
I thought that running an industrial core would break tether. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/750 "2019-07-23T14:43:06Z")
> [@Abe\_Rollin](#): > > I think you should list the similarities first: > > Pool & Baseball. > > - You hit a ball with a wooden stick > - You score more points the better you are at hitting balls > - The surface you play on is green > - The ball hurts when hit someone in the head with it I feel that having Nullsec Local in “Delayed” mode is a good move. You just gave Nullsec the disadvantages of Wormhole “Delayed” Local. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/751 "2019-07-23T15:23:32Z")
Explain how having a stupid blackout is giving everyone a chance. And please don’t start listing reasons as if CCP had sent you their defense script… ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/752 "2019-07-23T15:26:24Z")
If we all wanted to live in WH space with WH mechanics, we would be in WH. ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/753 "2019-07-23T15:33:16Z")
And as others have already pointed out, there are far bigger differences between the two than delayed local. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/754 "2019-07-23T15:43:33Z")
He reads more like a i286 to me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/755 "2019-07-23T15:45:41Z")
> [@Milto\_Farroads](#): > > No one said WH is Null without local. Hundreds of posts in the former incarnation of this thread claimed exactly that and this thread is no exception… Exhibit A: > [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > If we all wanted to live in WH space with WH mechanics, we would be in WH. Perhaps you know the difference between nullsec and w-space, but I assure you that the common botter / renter trash player does not. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/756 "2019-07-23T15:54:01Z")
What you mean besides risk vs reward being closer now and Null no longer being safer than Hi-sec and that with less industry being done in null, it will make the rest of eve more viable like it used to be? Ok so how about HTFU, Null is outlaw space not My Little Pony space and if you do not like the level of risk a more balanced Null is, then Hi-sec is available. I do hope the blackout lasts, the game has hope now. Not just My Little in Space. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/757 "2019-07-23T15:54:53Z")
If you think Null without local is even close to WH space, you have never lived there but as you love safety so much, I am not surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Holy\_Shizznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/holy_shizznit/32/409978_2.png) [@Holy\_Shizznit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Holy_Shizznit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/758 "2019-07-23T15:56:31Z")
Its not about safety, and noone wants wh space in k-space. Have you seen null after blackout? its less then 10% activity as before. Is it good for the game? Well… we will see… ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/759 "2019-07-23T16:01:51Z")
If it is 10% active than before but the server stats are up, that means that they must be in Hi-sec. It does leave the question, who is killing so many NPCs if there are only 10% left in Null. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/760 "2019-07-23T16:09:30Z")
Personally I think this game will definitely go toward its deathbed with the blackout. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/761 "2019-07-23T16:11:37Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > Personally I think this game will definitely go toward its deathbed with the blackout The current existing data does not support this conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/762 "2019-07-23T16:13:26Z")
We will see what the future holds, especially if CCP continues to smoke the carpet ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/763 "2019-07-23T16:15:02Z")
It sounds like you just don’t like the change, again the currently existing data does not support this conclusion. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=36) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=38)