# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1127 "2019-07-26T16:21:07Z")
> [@Azalais\_Selenica](#): > > Some freighters did die during the event ‘Some’ freighters. Heh. ok. And freighters die literally every day in highsec. So do mining ships all over HS. I highlighted the freighters in BJ simply because it’s an easy reference for people to understand. > [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > After all of the talk I was expecting, the dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together , mass hysteria! Egon? > [@Anna\_TLA](#): > > The doom and gloom is a slow rolling thing, many of us who will quit soon, have time left on our accounts. > [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > absolutely correct. personally I have already cancelled my renewal and indicated it was due to the blackout. kthxbye! ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1128 "2019-07-26T16:23:53Z")
LOL, not exactly and not yet. I have a 3 month subscription and that is why I am saying that current subscription numbers dont matter. And I am in agreement with Anna that everything will happen over a period of time. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1129 "2019-07-26T16:26:14Z")
Yes, we know. You’ve mentioned your three month subscription more times than I care to count. We’re all _well_ aware that you have a three month sub that you cancelled because of the blackout. Kinda my point. Repeating it _ad nauseum_ just makes us care _even less_ and wish you’d hurry up and go away already. I mean, I’m not trying to be a dick about it. That’s just a happy side-effect. But if you’re trying to be persuasive, the more you harp on how you’re quitting, the less people will give a damn. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1130 "2019-07-26T16:28:59Z")
No worries, all good 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1131 "2019-07-26T16:42:05Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > And freighters die literally every day in highsec. So do mining ships all over HS. I highlighted the freighters in BJ simply because it’s an easy reference for people to understand. The die because: - kill rights - wardec - paper-thin covetors and retrievers without support or orca to hide in - flagging traps - transporting outrageously valuable cargo in one go In other words things that could’ve been easily avoided altogether. Indeed anything can be killed everywhere given enough ships. But encountering overwhelming force that would kill an orca or procurer just for the sake of killing it is **extremely** unlikely. I personally used to move stuff up to 20 billions in cost to jita on autopilot. Never died once. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1132 "2019-07-26T16:43:41Z")
maybe fight if in gang with logi but microgang and solo no; that would be silly. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1133 "2019-07-26T16:47:02Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > all the people there sit on the undock with Tornado’s, or just camp the few entrance/exit systems with interdictors LOLWUT?? in ORE space? its practically dead wtf you smokin willis? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1134 "2019-07-26T16:51:47Z")
Yep, addmitedly i dun goofed but still… > **[Malediction | Lugburz | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77988860/)** > > Lugburz (Intaki Cartel) lost their Malediction in 0-YMBJ (Tribute). Final Blow by Faymm (African Atomic.) flying in a Orthrus. Total Value: 56,430,808.42 ISK > **[Capsule | Lugburz | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77988864/)** > > Lugburz (Intaki Cartel) lost their Capsule in 0-YMBJ (Tribute) Total Value: 195,806,201.85 ISK hunting ratters is not only ■■■■, its quite pointless; like trying to kill ventures in facwar plexes… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1135 "2019-07-26T17:19:24Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Projectile or Missile fit? I guess torpedo and cruise is too big, rapid light too small, so rapid heavy? Normal typhoon and projectile? Of course it is rapid heavies, preferably precision [most of the rats are fast moving frigs so application bonus from typhoon is great here]. Precision cruises with painter in addition to webs could work but torps are out of the question. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1136 "2019-07-26T17:23:30Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > In the first week of the Rorqual changes, a rorqual was dying within 15 jumps of me seemingly every 12 minutes. Thought I’d wait out the madness. Then the first rorqual nerf hit. 15 jumps O.o I don’t know about you but it seems like you got scared - 15 jumps is a LOT of space. Also, you could have used rorq with T2 or augmented mining drones - still better than hulk. ---
**Author:** ![Valentine\_King](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valentine_king/32/423475_2.png) [@Valentine\_King](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valentine_King)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1137 "2019-07-26T17:32:36Z")
Tell us where you are and we can change that - make things more exciting for you 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1138 "2019-07-26T17:34:38Z")
I flew for three hours before running it into a EvEUni gate camp. Also that was days ago, way to go response fleet! ![29a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/1/e1a6585bb0ab84964399e7ee63ce3e3baf4440c1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1139 "2019-07-26T17:38:47Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > I would go for a decrease. But subscriptions is not the only item to look at it in my opinion. With many of us buying packages (3 month, 6 month and such), it is really the plex sales, logins and how many renew after their subscription expires… For example, i have 3 month subscription, but just cancelled my renewal and I specifically wrote on feedback that it was because of blackout Sadly I can’t write reason for subscriptions - for one I don’t get that option, for two I don’t use subs - I just find it easier to manage omega through use of plex. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1140 "2019-07-26T17:56:04Z")
Simply dont buy plex 😃 ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1141 "2019-07-26T18:21:04Z")
Well, if I don’t buy plex then I have to sub. Managing multiple subscriptions is not nice so I plex instead. Also the more you cry the more I feel like getting more accounts 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1142 "2019-07-26T18:28:19Z")
LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1143 "2019-07-26T18:37:04Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > And if they are dumb enough to make it permanent, say good bye to EVE because EVE wont last longer than 1-2 years You have little to no proof of this, and current existing that we have access to say the reverse. ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1144 "2019-07-26T18:40:39Z")
Will be interesting to see what happens concerning locals future with the introduction of new structures. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1145 "2019-07-26T19:10:29Z")
> **[CCP Blackout Interview - Talking in Stations](https://www.talkinginstations.com/2019/07/ccp-blackout-interview/)** > > The CEO and key CCP team members discuss the Null Sec Blackout experiment, the state of New Eden, and thoughts about the future of EVE Online. CCP Hellmar, CEO of CCP Games, CCP Goodfella, Sr. Brand Manager of EVE Online, and CCP Falcon, Sr.... Hmm. Trigger warning. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_TLA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_tla/32/205546_2.png) [@Anna\_TLA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_TLA)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1146 "2019-07-26T19:21:59Z")
Actually you are wrong, Ia ma bout to leave since this change makes it terribly annoying to try and be a PVE, part time PVP player. The game is annoying on the best of days, and this just makes it so I do not want to log in. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=55) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=57)