# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1456 "2019-07-29T21:55:30Z")
This one? > **[Lamborghinii | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/94484639/)** > > Lamborghinii: 0 ships destroyed and 2 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1457 "2019-07-29T21:56:17Z")
… it would seem fitting, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1458 "2019-07-29T21:58:12Z")
I mean if you were living in Null you’d know if I posted on my main, especially after I gave you an entire schpeal of my usual behavior, it wouldn’t be too hard to find me and wait 😉 . . . . .That’s free intel and exactly why I’m not providing it, not withstanding any possible drama that would come from trolls with my corp/alliance 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1459 "2019-07-29T22:01:58Z")
> [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](#): > > I mean if you were living in Null you’d know if I posted on my main I only post on accounts that I actively use, which is why the account of choice is the one I already use for combat, be it PVP or PVE. I may not _live there now_ but I still do make **deliveries there.** I actively deal with the gate camps, and drag bubbles that care not if you are blue, red or neutrals, as well as players that are looking for ‘expensive’ killmails. You on the other hand post on an alt that does absolutely nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1460 "2019-07-29T22:04:15Z")
Of course, and I just explained why…lol Like I said before, visiting a place isn’t the same as living there… and honestly I’m not worried about you in specific finding me, I’m rather more concerned with the actual pvpers engaging in the blackout who wouldn’t miss an opportunity, especially considering I’m not all too far from one of the many npc null spaces 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1461 "2019-07-29T22:05:56Z")
> [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](#): > > Like I said before, visiting a place isn’t the same as living there Blackout has an effect on everyone that goes through there, visitors, delivery truck drivers, ‘real pvpers’ and anti-pvp clowns such as yourself. It a shame you can’t see that. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1462 "2019-07-29T22:07:13Z")
lol “anti-pvp” clowns, says the guy not engaging in the content 😉 . Guess null is too scary for ya right now without the lights on… or isn’t the argument that you all use for people who don’t particularly like the update? ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1463 "2019-07-29T22:10:32Z")
> [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](#): > > says the guy not engaging in the content Is this just an insult that you use on people that actually enjoy the update. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1464 "2019-07-29T22:13:01Z")
I mean of course you enjoy the update… you’re not participating in it, lol. That’s like saying “I like that WoW added an expansion, but I don’t play it…” ![2019-07-29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/f/4f8b5967df9c9468fddf62cf3f871c6e1b712440.png) At least I can say I know what I’m talking about since I have kills during the blackout…let alone the last year or two 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Officer\_Browridge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/officer_browridge/32/480338_2.png) [@Officer\_Browridge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Officer_Browridge)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1466 "2019-07-29T23:04:37Z")
That sequence of kills is very easy to find, and only one involved character has ever shared a corporation with you, so there isn’t a lot of reason to black out the deetz. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1467 "2019-07-29T23:09:43Z")
Okay creeper…lol …For the lazy people 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1468 "2019-07-29T23:11:59Z")
No personal attacks. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1469 "2019-07-29T23:21:19Z")
> [@Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1466): > > That sequence of kills is very easy to find, and only one involved character has ever shared a corporation with you, so there isn’t a lot of reason to black out the deetz. see this… this is what happens in Null 😉 lol ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1470 "2019-07-29T23:45:00Z")
Once again someone misses the point completely. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1471 "2019-07-30T02:37:56Z")
> [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](#): > > see this… this is what happens in Null 😉 lol What you come to the forums after over a decade of null telling everyone to HTFU after every change that favoured null and complain about a change to null that has been argued for by huge numbers of players for the last 15 years. I think maybe null needs to take its own advice. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1472 "2019-07-30T02:45:43Z")
I don’t know if I would say a “huge” number of players have advocated for no local for years…lol, least not as long as I’ve been playing (maybe high-sec bears)… ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1473 "2019-07-30T02:52:31Z")
It has had massive threads over 15 years. Yes it was a lot of players who did not want null that safe since 2003. There have been dev blogs 8 or 9 years ago about removing local from null, (which the CSM killed off) This has been a long time and a lot of player posts in the making. Not just hi-sec bears who got told at almost every change to HTFU. The Irony now is wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1474 "2019-07-30T03:01:57Z")
I mean you’re always going to have people support something, but like I said I would say it’s pretty arguable that “huge” numbers wanted no local, lol, especially given the overall response to it as it stands right now. Maybe a segment, maybe they wanted things to be a bit tougher, but full support for no local is a stretch… ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1475 "2019-07-30T03:06:31Z")
The no local in Null threads have always been huge and after 15 years of almost continuous threads huge is a fairly safe bet. No the response now is the same as it has been for over a decade. Null players make the most noise about everything and the squeaky wheel has always gotten the best and most of the oil. Only difference now is CCP seem to be listening to their wallets not the loud mouths in null. Actually null remind me of the right wing echo chambers where they talk among themselves so much that they always think they are the not so silent majority. And the reality is they are a very noisy 5% ---
**Author:** ![Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esmerelda_virpio/32/146459_2.png) [@Esmerelda\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esmerelda_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/1476 "2019-07-30T03:13:33Z")
lol so it’s safe to assume after that response that you’re a high-sec bear? And honestly like I said your “huge” comment is overstated, most of the forum posts you’re talking about have had maybe 1-3k responses, with a decent amount commenting against… Just based on your response though (not a personal attack) but sounds like someone is a bit bitter up in high sec over null (which mind you brought the largest number of people in 2016, despite the fact that most of the population lives in high-sec)… just a thought [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=71) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=73)