# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 18, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410 "2019-07-18T19:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Migorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/migorn/32/148899_2.png) [@Migorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Migorn)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/165 "2019-07-19T10:27:01Z")
ahh yes let make it easier for the big alliances, and make the smaller semi independent ones work harder… please think before you type 😕 the big alliances/umbrellas and the blue donut is what let ‘bots’ run wild in the first place but they are the ones least affected/not at all by this blackout. ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/166 "2019-07-19T10:27:15Z")
Rather then slip to saying BS , maybe you should counter with why in a more specific way as to how my thoughts seemed to upset you, if you are capable of forming such a statement I look forward to it. Sorry if your Alliance is having such a hard time, hope it gets better for you all. Why you took this statement as a personal slight is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/167 "2019-07-19T10:27:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I just like to see entitled whiners be miserable. Is that a crime? nope not at all 🙂 but you seem to think null sec pilots don’t feel the same, lol ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/168 "2019-07-19T10:29:09Z")
I do? If Ive said something that suggests that, I should probably retract it and apologise. Because its nice to see people impaled on their own lances. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/169 "2019-07-19T10:36:21Z")
just a bit 😉 but it’s all good, i get where ya coming from. for me… well… i just like the change, if it’s good for the game over all, then bring it. i see a lot whine about it over learning how to deal with it. so for me i guess it’s suck it up buttercups! ---
**Author:** ![Migorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/migorn/32/148899_2.png) [@Migorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Migorn)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/170 "2019-07-19T10:39:31Z")
the total BS part comes in because you said: ‘HEY if you want to Rat , and Mine with relative safety in Null do it in systems covered by your home fleets, makes thing 10 times easier for you and 10 times harder for the would be Hunters’ we are a small semi independent null alliance, we have blues, we have reds, we don’t have an umbrella, we don’t have a big home fleet on standby waiting. we fought for and took are space and made are little empire… most of the players in the big alliances don’t know what a null war is, they just rat and blob… and maybe roam and from what you have said its easy to see that you have little understanding of null outside of an umbrella or blue blob. ‘In future attempts to to stop drone botting , make all drone actions have to be active rather then passive, get rid of the easy prey and make the PVP crowd have what they want harder to find intelligent Anom runners and Miners.’ this part makes some sense, drones should never auto move to the next target. that said the blackout has done nothing to affect bots, just go and take a look at the high sec ice belts. but the blackout has almost totally killed the pve/indy side of thigs for anyone not under an umbrella. so once again the big alliances are the ones that benefit the most… and they are the cause of the problem in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Spurty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_spurty/32/499672_2.png) [@Commander\_Spurty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Spurty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/171 "2019-07-19T10:40:19Z")
This is the best reply I’ve read and I’ve read a lot of replies lol Plus 1 internets ---
**Author:** ![Ryder\_ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryder_ook/32/134079_2.png) [@Ryder\_ook](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryder_ook)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/172 "2019-07-19T10:44:08Z")
And at one point, BNI was founded and then the whole “bring the Newbros to Null” story started. Along with it went the “build independent industry in null” concept of the goons and voila, you have all sorts of players in null all of a sudden. Or was that a trick question? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/173 "2019-07-19T10:45:12Z")
No that makes sense. Ty ![ns](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/2/7221751976a46f2f2637d08721604d0020d58a94.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/174 "2019-07-19T10:49:47Z")
``` First off my Comment was not aimed at you , and was rather meant to be a little funny but you seem really worked up , well so because you don't have a umbrella your comment was warranted , I have nothing to do with the current plight of your alliance so you flew off the handle there a bit. As for WAR that is apart of eve and its the Taxes from killing Rats and the Miners that allow corps to wage wars. Again I concur that I want to end botting and afk Ratting. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/175 "2019-07-19T11:01:51Z")
> [@Amanda\_Orion](#): > > Who do you think is going to pay a subscription to watch for gate flashes for 4 hours at a time? No one, I can’t think of one name. Sure there might be some doing that now, but that will get really old, really fast. And for move ops in the past (pre-JF) it was done, but only during the operation. To pay to do that! Nooooooooooooo. Hell, I’m betting the Goons (proclaimed) Titan wall will suffer from the same effects of boredom. Fun for a bit, sure, but that won’t last. ---
**Author:** ![Emmy\_Chelien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emmy_chelien/32/354594_2.png) [@Emmy\_Chelien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emmy_Chelien)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/176 "2019-07-19T11:10:16Z")
I always forget to press the thumbs down button when logging off. CCPls can you make this pop up when we click “log off”? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/177 "2019-07-19T11:28:24Z")
> [@Emmy\_Chelien](#): > > CCPls can you make this pop up when we click “log off”? I second this. I keep forgetting to hit the thumbs up atm. ---
**Author:** ![Ikki\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikki_phoenix/32/391105_2.png) [@Ikki\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikki_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/178 "2019-07-19T11:30:53Z")
same here. Everyone needs to hit the thumb down button ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/179 "2019-07-19T11:31:59Z")
I think you misread, old bean. Im logging in all my account atm to get the SPs, and hit the Up up up button ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/181 "2019-07-19T12:40:52Z")
> [@Mordus\_Puma](#): > > Question: idiots, what do you hope for? I hope people like you grow a spine and undock even when it’s a little scary to do so. If you want an honest answer. ---
**Author:** ![Mordus\_Puma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mordus_puma/32/148398_2.png) [@Mordus\_Puma](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mordus_Puma)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/182 "2019-07-19T12:43:37Z")
Reciprocal - abyss geek. You got your ■■■■, you enjoy your meal. I hope you and your friends are well versed in ■■■■, there is nothing left but this. Chao scum. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/183 "2019-07-19T12:44:49Z")
> [@Mordus\_Puma](#): > > there is nothing left but this. Oh man, I sure hope so. Removing Local has finally shown cowards for the spineless scaredy-cats they all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/184 "2019-07-19T12:49:07Z")
> [@Mordus\_Puma](#): > > People refuse to play, small corporations are falling apart, people are hammering on the game … Sounds like the last 3 years to me. But I guess you wouldn’t have noticed if you weren’t active in the PVP side of things. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410/185 "2019-07-19T12:51:07Z")
> [@Mordus\_Puma](#): > > they scour the weak, make raids for profit with impunity and people lose their play property. Isnt that what EvE’s all about? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread-part-deux/176410.md?page=10)