# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 129
**Author:** ![Shuckstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shuckstar/32/415435_2.png) [@Shuckstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shuckstar)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2607 "2019-07-06T11:29:41Z")
Jesus dude do you even play EvE, all I see from you is “reeeeee my game is ruined because I can’t deal with cloaky campers with no local”. Grow a pair, man up and adapt or my favourite option for you LEAVE. Stop pretending your going to leave and do it. Remove yourself from the game and forums your a right spud. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2608 "2019-07-06T11:29:41Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > I don’t mean it like that, I just mean if they form up to counter your fit perfectly then there is very little 1 person can do against that, its an inevitable death waiting to happen. But they don’t need to. Any sensible bomber fit will do the job just fine in 1-2 alphas. You can’t really lower your sig enough to not make the damage they apply to drop below lethal. And the inevitable death is the whole point. I do not pay subscription to be someone’s FREE content. Give me a fighting chance or ■■■■ off my wallet is my entire point, and with current meta, my only fighting chance when krabbing is to never leave tether range. ---
**Author:** ![Binary\_Broker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/binary_broker/32/311845_2.png) [@Binary\_Broker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Binary_Broker)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2609 "2019-07-06T11:29:49Z")
I’m surprised you force null sec people live in a wormhole kind of space. If they wanted it on their own they would already live in a wormhole, right? This is gonna just be wormhole 2.0 where cynos work and ships can jump between systems. So even more dodgy and deserted as wormholes are now. Probably people wont like this, they move low or high sec or to **another games.** I suspect you are doing this as you are **incapable** to solve problems with the new chat system and hope that less usage of chat will remove that problem. It just might come true as there will be less clients connected to chat system! I think you are shooting your leg here… ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2610 "2019-07-06T11:30:02Z")
> [@xOmGx](#): > > you should tell then NEVER try and play EvE coz EvE lost itself thatnks to Fozzy and other “talented” peoples in CCP I agree with you there, Fozzie doesn’t have a good eye for follow on effects. Hence the cap/sub balance issues, subs can’t survive on grid with caps and supers anymore, this wasn’t always the case. ---
**Author:** ![Caroline\_Groohk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_groohk/32/146351_2.png) [@Caroline\_Groohk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_Groohk)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2611 "2019-07-06T11:30:07Z")
"CCP Wrangler: “EVE is a dark and harsh world, you’re supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you’re not supposed to feel like you’re logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that’s what hello kitty online is for.” This was written a long time ago and now it finally becomes true for the Nullsec. Finally, the principle of risk vs. income is also applied to the nullsec. It’s unfortunate that some can’t get comfortable with it, but do yourselves and us a favor, it’s their decision and just let them go without mockery and contempt. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Greylord\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/greylord_kane/32/177545_2.png) [@Greylord\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Greylord_Kane)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2612 "2019-07-06T11:30:08Z")
MMMM this is what WH space was intended for? It’s going to be a bad financial decision…don’t do it……. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2613 "2019-07-06T11:30:43Z")
> [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > I love CCP so much right now, and to the rest of you, welcome to wh living 😂 When they implement cynos in wormholes and you realize you’re in range of everybody and his dog, I’ll throw that right back at ya. ---
**Author:** ![Partsking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/partsking/32/146359_2.png) [@Partsking](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Partsking)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2614 "2019-07-06T11:31:25Z")
Roll back to 2012. Fire fozzie. MEGA ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2615 "2019-07-06T11:32:12Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > When they implement cynos in wormholes and you realize you’re in range of everybody and his dog, I’ll throw that right back at ya. Never flown anything with a jump drive have ya? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2616 "2019-07-06T11:32:14Z")
> [@Caroline\_Groohk](#): > > "CCP Wrangler: “EVE is a dark and harsh world, you’re supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you’re not supposed to feel like you’re logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that’s what hello kitty online is for.” > > This was written a long time ago and now it finally becomes true for the Nullsec. Finally, the principle of risk vs. income is also applied to the nullsec. > It’s unfortunate that some can’t get comfortable with it, but do yourselves and us a favor, it’s their decision and just let them go without mockery and contempt. > o7 No, risk vs income no longer applies to nullsec, because for krabbers risk is infinite and reward is none, while for ganktards, risk is none and reward is infinite. Local should have been disabled only for ganktards to make it fair, leaving it on for locals. ---
**Author:** ![xOmGx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xomgx/32/242854_2.png) [@xOmGx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xOmGx)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2617 "2019-07-06T11:33:15Z")
if you want to kill CAPS you should field your OWN caps to start with Titans and Supers (specially titans) are underpowered Caps are easy to kill these days DO i have to remind you times when SINGLE TITAN on grid was able to wipe whole fleets single handed? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2618 "2019-07-06T11:33:32Z")
its getting all dramatic up in this piece ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2619 "2019-07-06T11:33:32Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > Never flown anything with a jump drive have ya? Are you stupid or simply afraid to make a point? ---
**Author:** ![Caroline\_Groohk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_groohk/32/146351_2.png) [@Caroline\_Groohk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_Groohk)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2620 "2019-07-06T11:33:55Z")
Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2621 "2019-07-06T11:34:21Z")
Just imagine bot at gate, and bot probe signature… they will have perfect intel again and only player will be imapct by change. In fact with this change CCP reinforce bot, they will be the alone entity who could farm outside super umbrella safe soon. ---
**Author:** ![xOmGx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xomgx/32/242854_2.png) [@xOmGx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xOmGx)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2622 "2019-07-06T11:34:33Z")
why even to log in to something that makes you feel angry? go and gem married instead lol ---
**Author:** ![Root\_er](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/root_er/32/184965_2.png) [@Root\_er](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Root_er)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2623 "2019-07-06T11:34:52Z")
Doubt the numbers will support your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Sticky\_Mess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sticky_mess/32/186859_2.png) [@Sticky\_Mess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sticky_Mess)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2624 "2019-07-06T11:34:54Z")
Back when DDs did an AOE, and doctrines were built around being able to tank the DD? And then people started fielding two DDs, and people started gimping their fits further to avoid dying to that? That was a terrible time in EVE. Dropping a Titan was an ‘I win’ button. Is that the EVE you want to return to? If so, the game will be a better place with you unsubbed. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2625 "2019-07-06T11:35:11Z")
> [@Caroline\_Groohk](#): > > Seriously? Of course. Risk vs reward was already heavily in the ganker’s favor, especially after NSA nerf. But that’ll never happen because fair game was never an interest of CCP. ---
**Author:** ![YKikA\_MooCow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ykika_moocow/32/232362_2.png) [@YKikA\_MooCow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YKikA_MooCow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2626 "2019-07-06T11:35:15Z")
I have lived in NS and WH’s and will admit, IMO having no local in Null will be considerably harder than in WH’s, due to traffic, ease of access, population, it is known space, and probably the single biggest issue I can see is Cyno’s, you will more than likely get a lot more people sneaking in to your system. But I don’t have an issue with the idea, I welcome the challenge, dscan and scouts in the right spot are key to counter 😉 Probably should look at doing this to ALL of eve though, not just NS. I feel you are being racist toward NS players 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=128) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=130)