# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3176 "2019-07-06T20:18:23Z")
But you’re in a large alliance, right? I thought the whole point of being in Null Sec SoV Alliance was to do Fleet Ops. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3177 "2019-07-06T20:22:36Z")
Bad corp is bad? Join one that rotates people out, or has a dude with a few accounts that he already uses for eyes. Problem solved. Wormholes have been around for a long time. We’ve seen how local (or the lack thereof) affects gameplay. And after some time we’ve all found that local is a cancerous pile of crap that really does need to go away. it ruins mining ops, ratting fleets, etc on one side, and ruins hunting and stuff on the other side. I have no local. I fly whatever is most efficient. We have good fights, and I krab like it’s going out of style. I generally do well enough: [https://zkillboard.com/character/92438797/](https://zkillboard.com/character/92438797/) But sometimes I derp really hard: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/77479310/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/77479310/) \<-- totally stupid loss, I was in a sleipnir in that pod… I did a dumb. ---
**Author:** ![MoxiCoxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moxicoxi/32/137267_2.png) [@MoxiCoxi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MoxiCoxi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3178 "2019-07-06T20:24:07Z")
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees yes yes yes !!! Ratting bot users are angry 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![loneworf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loneworf/32/146483_2.png) [@loneworf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/loneworf)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3179 "2019-07-06T20:24:47Z")
The trouble is we live a real life as well as gaming life . time zones are an issue… life issues need to be dealt with… You cant guarantee turn out to work as fleet. Everyone will be guarding gates so travel will be almost impossible when you want to move around unless you use wh space. This kills the ability to earn isk. …no isk …no big ships …no big ships no reason to play eve bacause without them what would that be like! the whole picture is connected. even if you are part of a corp/alliance you still have to solo sometimes but what can you actually do solo? ---
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3180 "2019-07-06T20:26:25Z")
For the record, I’m not quitting, this wont kill null sec or the game, and there is probably some small good that can come out of the idea. I just think its stupid and will backfire in ways that makes the whole game (not just null) worse. Its like not liking the wall paper in one room so you burn the entire house down to fix it lol. Wormholes work because you can control access and there is no threat of cynos. Lots of the people cheering it are responding to their prejudices and dislike of null sec players the same way some of those null players would laugh and cheer if concord got cut off in high sec. But both situations lead to the same thing, many high players would simply quit if concord went away, there wouldnt magically be more content. Same will happen in null (and worse, if you think people are turtled up under super cap umbrellas now, just wait). Personally I am glad I decided a long time ago to never own a rorq or super cap. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Watchman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_watchman/32/146472_2.png) [@Dark\_Watchman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Watchman)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3181 "2019-07-06T20:27:23Z")
> [@loneworf](#): > > because you cant rat or mine ( many do this solo ) you cant afford to lose your stuff. Join Goons. They will support you and help you integrate. As you make it sound, the way things are going you’ll not be space rich anytime soon with your current corp. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3182 "2019-07-06T20:27:30Z")
I own several of both and now I feel more safe… ---
**Author:** ![Tarmo\_theGreat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarmo_thegreat/32/200706_2.png) [@Tarmo\_theGreat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarmo_theGreat)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3183 "2019-07-06T20:28:30Z")
i start to think there is idiots in ccp who thinks most stupid ideas to kill that game. ---
**Author:** ![Katie\_Pickle\_Tickler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katie_pickle_tickler/32/150796_2.png) [@Katie\_Pickle\_Tickler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katie_Pickle_Tickler)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3184 "2019-07-06T20:29:09Z")
It will kill both ---
**Author:** ![Teddy\_KGB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teddy_kgb/32/186819_2.png) [@Teddy\_KGB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teddy_KGB)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3185 "2019-07-06T20:30:41Z")
when will it start?? i can’t wait longer! i want to resub ---
**Author:** ![Veli\_ANDAC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veli_andac/32/508110_2.png) [@Veli\_ANDAC](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veli_ANDAC)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3186 "2019-07-06T20:34:22Z")
Fantastic improvement, thank you CCP 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drago\_Balor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_balor/32/146504_2.png) [@Drago\_Balor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Balor)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3187 "2019-07-06T20:41:55Z")
I think this will be one or the worst thing CCP can do to the players that dont have 3 or 4 accounts to check gates and such ideas i heard here… ---
**Author:** ![Teddy\_KGB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teddy_kgb/32/186819_2.png) [@Teddy\_KGB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teddy_KGB)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3188 "2019-07-06T20:44:05Z")
i have 4 accounts and i want to squeez your terryfold ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Watchman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_watchman/32/146472_2.png) [@Dark\_Watchman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Watchman)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3189 "2019-07-06T20:44:06Z")
Maybe join a good corp that you can play with and will help you? ---
**Author:** ![Louise-san](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louise-san/32/216593_2.png) [@Louise-san](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Louise-san)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3190 "2019-07-06T20:44:07Z")
@CCP_Falcon I sugest something like balanced approach. Maily for the hunted guys. If you remove NS local or make it like in WH space than CCP please remove the information from in-game map -\> how many pirate ships and npc ships were killed in last 1/24 hours. And remove this information from your API so evemaps.dotlan web page will not be able to show it too. I think we need a balance between hunter and hunted krabs. Really if you remove local than make this change too. You need some balance @CCP_Falcon. Thank you in advance. Now I am looking forward to see the repsonse of those elite pvp hunters that will be against this idea 😃 Let the hunter’s salt begin… ---
**Author:** ![peter\_firebird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_firebird/32/146506_2.png) [@peter\_firebird](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/peter_firebird)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3191 "2019-07-06T20:44:54Z")
As someone who is splits time between ls and w space, all I can say is bring the popcorn, unsalted. ---
**Author:** ![Iowa\_Banshee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iowa_banshee/32/218394_2.png) [@Iowa\_Banshee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iowa_Banshee)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3192 "2019-07-06T20:45:27Z")
I had been complaining and complaining about how CCP spoiled my fav PVP ship by breaking ECM for solo combat - But now I get a chance to dust off the Rook. Be sure to watch D-Scan ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3193 "2019-07-06T20:47:05Z")
This is so dumb. Nullsec now has drifters. Nullsec now has delayed local. Nullsec is now wormhole space? I predict the stargates will all come down soon and we will be forced to rely on ansiblex gates. Allow us to bring our super caps in highsec next please, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![FightTheBear\_Jenkins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fightthebear_jenkins/32/145828_2.png) [@FightTheBear\_Jenkins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FightTheBear_Jenkins)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3194 "2019-07-06T20:47:46Z")
No problem at all really, just add a deployable router system that NS alliances can set up and maintain themselves. Like other deployables. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/3195 "2019-07-06T20:50:33Z")
> [@Louise-san](#): > > Now I am looking forward to see the repsonse of those elite pvp hunters that will be against this idea 😃 Let the hunter’s salt begin… I never trusted that info so I never used it. Doing that wont even slow me down. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=156) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=158)