# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 234
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4724 "2019-07-10T07:29:50Z")
We’ll see just how many it is. For years? You’re not bored of it yet? That’s saying something. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4725 "2019-07-10T07:30:20Z")
Come to Delve and see. ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4726 "2019-07-10T07:30:48Z")
They have to turn off local first! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4727 "2019-07-10T07:31:46Z")
Wow, you sound risk averse there. But sure, we’ll be here. I promise, you’ll get bored of getting boson’d when you jump into a system before we’ll get bored of more killmarks. The killmark doesn’t care how cheap your non-corvette/shuttle was, and neither do we. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4728 "2019-07-10T07:32:27Z")
> [@Chiara\_Sebi](#): > > Try to fit ewar, tank and the maximum yield on a hulk etc! It DOES NOT work!!! Why does your Hulk need to be Maximum Yield? Maybe if you weren’t so greedy, you’d have space to fit some tank and defenses. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4729 "2019-07-10T07:33:19Z")
Enough said lol ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4730 "2019-07-10T07:36:13Z")
I have to agree with this one FFS put a warp stab or 2 on , keep aligned, dont panic, paranoia is completely normal lol , but even I will chose a survival build for my Skiff or Procurer maybe you should try one of them. Hulk is really meant for Mining ops under protection Skiffs and Procurer as the solo boats. ---
**Author:** ![tom79](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tom79/32/147248_2.png) [@tom79](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tom79)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4731 "2019-07-10T07:39:43Z")
EVE last over the years because the economy controled by players. If remove local from 0.0 is like say “i don’t want the industrial players anymore” Some say “this is a good think because eve is PvP game” Wrong because when the PvE players leave EVE someone else need to fill the industry part of game I bet the plan of CCP is to make the eve “pay and win” game. You lost your ship? don’t warry buy some plex and spend them to get a new one from CCP ---
**Author:** ![Duckslayer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duckslayer/32/172307_2.png) [@Duckslayer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duckslayer)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4732 "2019-07-10T07:43:39Z")
Remember when anyone gave a ■■■■ about people who are miners on their main account? Me neither Wheyoooooooo nolocal WHEN? we are waiting ccp. No time like the present. noone needs 48 hours notice ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4733 "2019-07-10T07:43:52Z")
> [@tom79](#): > > when the PvE players leave EVE someone else need to fill the industry part of game Your mistake is forgetting that there are Industrialists who have a backbone and spine who will stick around even if there is no Local. They will make a lot more ISK because there is less competition mining ore and the minerals will be more valuable when all of the cowards stop mining. This is a win win for everyone as long as you are not a coward. ---
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4734 "2019-07-10T07:46:05Z")
Why would they get bored of it? It’s easy, it’s risk free, it’s very effective and they know it annoys the ■■■■ out of roamers. I’d be bosoning people on gates all day because it’s hilarious. Again, these people are playing the game properly. The way the game is currently designed dropping some supers on people is the best way to defend your space, so that’s what people do. Can’t fault them for doing it because only an idiot would purposely handicap themselves in a competitive game. The local change is a nice experiment but personally I can’t resub until supercap balance is addressed. Some more people will get ganked and eventually more people will be pushed into capitals under an umbrella. CCP is looking at the wrong problem if they want to fix roaming, but I suspect the local change has more to do with fighting bots than with improving nullsec PVP. ---
**Author:** ![tom79](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tom79/32/147248_2.png) [@tom79](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tom79)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4735 "2019-07-10T07:47:01Z")
I bet you never try to mine in HS? To see that is a waste of time? Even in 0.0 is a waste of time if don’t have “big ships” ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4736 "2019-07-10T07:47:57Z")
> [@tom79](#): > > I bet you never try to mine in HS? To see that is a waste of time? I have tried, and it is definitely a waste of time. > [@tom79](#): > > Even in 0.0 is a waste of time if don’t have “big ships” Then maybe you should get some “big ships”. 🙂 I know the miners in my alliance are still planning on mining, even without local. So while you cry and run away, we’ll still be here. ---
**Author:** ![IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/is_lah_ravin/32/263768_2.png) [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/IS_LAH_RAVIN)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4737 "2019-07-10T07:51:50Z")
Said like a true person who doesn’t have a stake in the game and should keep to themselves. ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4738 "2019-07-10T07:55:40Z")
Everyone found it funny when shitting on high sec war dec mechanics, whos laughing now 🤔 Karma at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4739 "2019-07-10T07:56:48Z")
> [@IS\_LAH\_RAVIN](#): > > Said like a true person who doesn’t have a stake in the game and should keep to themselves. A’right, I’ll say it: this change won’t have a dramatic impact. The primary adaptation needed, we did as soon as we got to Delve: Use big things, don’t get lazy, and be ready to get in the standing fleet and light your cyno if you run into problems. > [@Oberdon\_Shadow](#): > > Just because you say it does not make it true. We have recently been camped by goons. We were unable to undock anything bigger than a procurer without Goons cynoing in 60 people. When fighting, we would be outgunned 20 to 80. If we attempted to fight, we would get overwhelmed. Stop being a renter. Take your own space, and hold it. ---
**Author:** ![Duckslayer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duckslayer/32/172307_2.png) [@Duckslayer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duckslayer)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4740 "2019-07-10T07:58:37Z")
Imagine being the sort of cad who joins a 10k man alliance with no viable enemies, just so they can mine ore semi afk. What a dystopian future ---
**Author:** ![tom79](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tom79/32/147248_2.png) [@tom79](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tom79)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4741 "2019-07-10T08:00:20Z")
to get a “big ship” seriusly? I was a rorqual pilot from the time ccp drop it in game and i was build one of the first 10th in game. Also I was in a C3 wormhole about a year and build carriers in there (before the citadels) and know what mean do not have a local. Need to be sure 100% no-one is in your system to get the carrier out for ratting. Thats why i deside is time to go. i am too old for this sh…t ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4742 "2019-07-10T08:01:53Z")
OK sure bud. Dscan isn’t an effective tool. That’s why people don’t rat or mine in wormholes right? Except that we do and dscan works plenty fine. ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4743 "2019-07-10T08:09:03Z")
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