# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 238
**Author:** ![Kaabii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaabii/32/199405_2.png) [@Kaabii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaabii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4804 "2019-07-10T10:19:15Z")
i would agree on battleprobes meep edit … .combat probes @w@ … but dont take my normal probes away from me while being cloaked and scanning for combat/exploration sites xD! ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4805 "2019-07-10T10:20:59Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Mate, its nullsec; try to get your head around this please. > > Nullsec people have to be able to pvp, if they cant they are literally a useless alliance member in most cases. I look forward to the videos of your leet PVP skills in an Epithal. ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4806 "2019-07-10T10:22:06Z")
afters 4778 postings, my only question is… do we reach the 5000 postings today ? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4807 "2019-07-10T10:23:50Z")
Your strange. but whatever. ---
**Author:** ![wouroo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wouroo/32/188452_2.png) [@wouroo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/wouroo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4808 "2019-07-10T10:27:14Z")
> [@Xialis](#): > > > [@Arrendis](#): > > > > don’t get lazy, > > That’s asking a lot! I’d say joining goons is itself an act of laziness LOL I saw that laziness first hand when they came to lowsec only to get absolutely crapped all over (regularly) by fleets 1/2 the size or smaller. independent thought is definitely not a forte when it comes to large null blocks. I’m hoping this change makes WH connection diving a much more interesting prospect, especially with fleets of expendable stealth bombers ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4809 "2019-07-10T10:29:30Z")
Nice video and well done, but it has nothing to do with what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4810 "2019-07-10T10:30:11Z")
what you said has nothing to do with anything so whats your point? ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4811 "2019-07-10T10:33:55Z")
My point is you said that every toon in null should be able to PVP. And I call bullcrap on that. I have characters specialized in PI. The only ship they ever fly are Epithals. Explain to me how they should PVP in that? Or why they should? They contribute to the game and the alliance by producing. For stuff that other players need, including you. ---
**Author:** ![Kaabii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaabii/32/199405_2.png) [@Kaabii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaabii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4812 "2019-07-10T10:34:35Z")
more worse is … cause ccp is trying to “continue the story of eve” that goonswarm is trying to boicot the eve market now and putted a “blockade” up with other coalitions together and trying to punch ccp with that into the face. i doubt that ccp cares. cause its not only goonswarm which brings stuff to jita and co. lol that mitani guy often thinks aswell that he has ccp in “his hands” now they doing this ■■■■ cause their stations (and well war preperations) got interrupted by some “drifters” and they feel now “disturbed in their player versus player” envoirement. as far as i can see had this not yet any impact on the jita market ^^ i still like it how drifters poking everyone in null. it would be amazing if ccp makes the move with their “the scope” that its then suddenly “drifter and triglavians seem to have an alliance” THAT would be a huge “everyone has a big open mouth” moment xD! ---
**Author:** ![Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skilled_bitch_midumulf/32/146897_2.png) [@Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skilled_Bitch_Midumulf)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4813 "2019-07-10T10:40:40Z")
yeah bevore Blackout i was fine with da cloak but now i think it Needs to be revistet cause now ist to good. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4814 "2019-07-10T10:46:46Z")
No they dont, my pi toons sell direct in jita as do most others unless theyre making fuel usually; i get it, you cant pvp; but thats not my problem and there are plenty of videos on youtube that can help. PS. my pi toons can also use cynos and interceptors and other pvp ships. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4815 "2019-07-10T10:50:32Z")
So your saying that if someone doesn’t use PLEX to extend their time someone else can’t buy PLEX? Cause I can assure you that people will buy PLEX to sell regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4816 "2019-07-10T10:50:48Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > PS. my pi toons can also use cynos and interceptors and other pvp ships. They can switch ships while in flight? Amazing. Also, what good is a cyno on an Epi? It will be dead before anyone has time to respond. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4817 "2019-07-10T10:53:13Z")
yep, from any one of my capitals. You do play the game right? ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4818 "2019-07-10T10:54:02Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > So your saying that if someone doesn’t use PLEX to extend their time someone else can’t buy PLEX? Cause I can assure you that people will buy PLEX to sell regardless. Look up the basic economic principles of supply and demand. Sure, people will still buy PLEX to sell. But with less demand they will get less for it, taking away one incentive to do so. And with less turnover in numbers they also need to buy less quantities. Do the math. ---
**Author:** ![Sharcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sharcy/32/412462_2.png) [@Sharcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sharcy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4819 "2019-07-10T10:56:24Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > yep, from any one of my capitals. So every player should have a capital on stand-by? Thanks for underlining one of the major points everyone against this is making. Good luck getting that new player retention up, too. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4820 "2019-07-10T10:59:42Z")
new players should be in highsec til they are prepared to play in dangerous areas of space, just because you fail to understand the basic principles of eve and the different aspects of each region and type of game play doesnt mean others will not. In effect eve looks to be heading down a road where afk carebears like yourself that have no interest in defending space or even undocking to protect your fellow alliance members should be a thing of the past and every new player that comes to null will be fully prepared to actually play the game as it was intended. Not merely for ones own personal gain. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4821 "2019-07-10T11:02:03Z")
1 bil is a good plex price, over 1.5 is puching it; 2 bil is too much and any higher is ridiculas - dont forget that those who play the game need to be able to make the isk easy enough to actually want to buy plex and without those in space often the guys selling it have no customers and the pvpers no reason to sell plex either as no people in space. This is how it is in practice., not in theory. ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Lamperouge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_lamperouge/32/420136_2.png) [@Apo\_Lamperouge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Lamperouge)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4822 "2019-07-10T11:03:21Z")
> [@Ophelia\_Dallocort](#): > > F\*K the reeeeee need easy isk spurging group. fixed that for you ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4823 "2019-07-10T11:08:12Z")
I would agree to a point. But a well organized small alliance or Corp could live in nulsec. It would require operating under the radar of the mega alliances, but it’s possible. With local blackout, small alliance could slip through systems if they have good planning and tactical knowledge, we all know most of the mega alliance’s setups _(fleet, stations and fits)_, after all they have members happy to boast about them and show how great they are. Some that knows how to use all this information could easily use that to their advantage. Will be interesting to see how many small alliances and corps will stay in nulsec. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=237) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=239)